On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:31:01PM +1000, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > Lars Viklund: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:24:41PM +1000, Manuel M T Chakravarty wrote: > >> Well, then get the DVDs bundled with your Mac and install Xcode from > >> those, or sign up at developer.apple.com and get it there. BTW, Mac > >> users (and esp devs) upgrade very quickly, much faster than, say, Windows > >> users. > > > > I disagree with the assumption that OS X people are quick to upgrade. > > The last set of figures I saw on adoption were something along the lines > > of 15% on 10.6, with almost a third of the users on 10.4 and below, > > taken from some article I read the other week on the rising wave of OS X > > viruses and countermeasures. > > Those numbers sound completely wrong and I'd like to see a credible source > before I believe them. As just one data point on Snow Leopard adoption, have > a look at > > http://daringfireball.net/2009/09/snow_leopard_adoption_rate > > I would say that readers of Daring Fireball are fairly tech savvy people with > an above average percentage of developers. But consider this, > > "it took about five days for 10.6 to pass 10.5" > > Five days from the release of the OS for 50% of the DF readers to upgrade to > Snow Leopard.
My browser history had it, with what I assume is a much better sample size than "the DF readers", and being much more current: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/apples-mac-defender-update-allows-users-to-run-known-malware/13099 Re-visiting the URI, I notice that the low percentages I vaguely recalled were total OS marketshare, not OS X alone. Normalizing 10.6 v. 10.5 v. 10.4 yields this, which aligns with data mentioned in the thread: * 10.6 - 68.6% * 10.5 - 24.4% * 10.4 - 7.0% That's a solid 30% or so not on current OS X. I do have a problem with your "developers are more up to date" argument, as everyone who wants to build any package with native bits needs a toolchain installed. There's a fair amount of such packages on Hackage. This counter-argument is of course void and null if there's popular sane ways to deploy binary application bundles on OS X akin to Bamse, but to my knowledge no such beast exists. -- Lars Viklund | [email protected] _______________________________________________ Glasgow-haskell-users mailing list [email protected] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/glasgow-haskell-users
