The truly cool kids don't give a damn what the glasses cost -- and
they're more likely to want to "stick it to the man."

On Oct 21, 10:11 am, "Chuck Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I fix computers for a living -- some of my "test web pages" that I use to
> confirm the internet is working are Zenni and GlassyEyes.  I figure even if
> the person doesn't wear glasses it's a good choice because 1) they haven't
> been there before and consequently it's not in their browser cache, and 2)
> even if they don't need glasses themselves, they know someone who does, and
> it may help them indirectly.
>
> Consequently I've told a number of teachers about online glasses, and the
> response has been universally positive.  One VERY consistent response from
> teachers, though, has been:  "Do you know how many of my kids can't see the
> board because they broke their glasses, and aren't *eligible* for a new pair
> for 6 more months?  This would be a GodSend to them...or anyone, really!"
>
> Heck, several *teachers* at the local schools are wearing Zennis, now...I
> helped them place the orders!
>
> Definitely a market there -- make a deal with a school, and order glasses en
> masse for the kids.  The fact that the designs are cool would definitely
> help...well, except for the 12 year olds who already have iPhones, and think
> branding is more important than seeing.
>
> It'd take a creative approach to ensure that they aren't viewed as "welfare
> glasses" by the cool kids...but it's quite doable.
>
>      -- Chuck Knight
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:59 AM, onlineIDoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Great responses guys, keep them coming dont be shy to join and post.
> > This is ground breaking and may have to be done in stages with each
> > step evaluated along the way,
>
> > Come on post, buying glasses on line IS the future, just like CLs
>
> > Did you know that WMT stopped selling CL's on line and became an
> > affiliate with 1800 contacts.
>
> > check out their site, go pharmacy, contacts and you'll be redirected
> > to 1800 ,even WMT couldnt make money on these things.
>
> > Michael Katz
>
> > On Oct 21, 10:22 am, Fred Di <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You are to be commended for thinking of this.
>
> > > Clearly so many in your profession are just out rape the public.
> > > Even Walmart and Costco charge $50 or $75 more for an $8 pair of
> > > glasses.
>
> > > How many children go to school every day without glasses, because they
> > > broke there's and thier partents can't afford another pair?    How
> > > many kids don't get thier eyes checked, because there partents can't
> > > afford it.  How many kids are teased at school because they have tape
> > > holding thier broken glasses together. In this economy I think there
> > > are a lot.  And these parent are those least likley to buy on-line.
> > > When children can't see, they can't learn, and a great mind is
> > > potentially wasted.
>
> > > I suggest you open up your shop in a poor neighborhood.
> > > The rent will be low, and the people will be thankful.
>
> > > How about a VAN/RV with all youre quipment in it.
> > > Would that work.  You could park it in the parking lot at a school,
> > > church, or community center.
> > > Charge as little as you can, maybe $10?  Pehpas a chucrh will organize
> > > to pay for really poor kids.
>
> > > On Oct 19, 4:36 pm, onlineIDoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm thinking of doing this and I wonder ( marketing survey :) ) what
> > > > your reaction is . Any comments pro or con or other suggestions are
> > > > welcome and I have thick skin if needed.
>
> > > > I have been an optometrist for some 35 years, the past 12 I subleased
> > > > a location(s) at a big box merchandiser . I have cut my hours down to
> > > > 3 days a week, I'm only 51 but have other interests etc. I plan on
> > > > working 3 days a week until the good lord says no more. Dont want to
> > > > bust my hump and then drop dead before full retirement, and that
> > > > sounds boring anyway.
>
> > > > Although it is tolerated , my big box chain really aint thrilled about
> > > > this deal and I know I can be out on a dime, or return to our prior
> > > > deal.
>
> > > > Anyway, better to leave before being kicked out, I am thinking of
> > > > opening a low overhead good exposure location to just provide optical
> > > > services and let the internet take it from there. I know I'm early,
> > > > but I pondered it when contacts starting popping on the net,
> > > > people had reservations at first but now thats where most are sold.
>
> > > > I know its a consumer led recession here, but all the better cause
> > > > when folks get desperate to spend their monies, they are becoming
> > > > panicked. I "felt" the slowing in the aur since January, but ever
> > > > since that LEH news it's like people changed. More willing to try
> > > > alternatives, desperate??lets say controlled desperation.
>
> > > > I have always given great value to my patients, open door policies,
> > > > flat cheap rates and big store volume was the answer. It still works
> > > > but even our eyeglass prices are a lot of money, too much. The model
> > > > may be failing, ie a retail store where folks pay high overhead and
> > > > pay commissions , the model dragged thru the past several decades as a
> > > > sort of deal was struck.
>
> > > > Suppliers and to sell to everyone, and not piss anyone off, so they
> > > > approach small shops and big chains differently, the net result being
> > > > that markups are obnoxiously high,so the small guy can see 3-4 people
> > > > a day and make it. And the big boys paying much less to suppliers love
> > > > the markup so status quo, the consumer gets the shaft and "bails out
> > > > the system".
>
> > > > But if internet eyeglass sales become a true competitor to B/M sales,
> > > > the model will break.Thats how contacts became a no profit item.
>
> > > > So my idea, rent with the option to buy a properly zoned house, RE is
> > > > down here too, set up the office I described above. Idealy, sponsors
> > > > would sell consignment sets and keep them up do date, and let you work
> > > > off its cost in sales. Well, even without that, the patient will be
> > > > directed to this site, so they will not fall in bad hands. There are
> > > > some messed up online retailers, not on our list.
> > > > We'd give a thorough exam, put them on terminals or give them the
> > > > address to shop at home.If we had samples we could grid them so we can
> > > > just keeping exams going, give advise adjust the glasses etc.We could
> > > > charge maybe 20.00 over the exam price to cover the investment in IT
> > > > and maybe consignment. Product comees to your place or ours, and I can
> > > > leave one assistant there to set appointments, adjust frames, etc.
>
> > > > This really amounts to a new model of business whose time might be
> > > > here. What do you think? How can I make it better, is it a bad idea?
>
> > > > Boy I'm glad Ira filters the messages, I may just pissed off almost
> > > > every optician and optometrist in the world on the WWW.
>
> > > > With best wishes for all those hurting from this recession, I stand to
> > > > help. Peace.
>
> > > > Mike Katz  optometrist
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