Thank you for this!  Very informative.  I do have some astigmatism in
both eyes, more in one than in the other, so maybe that's contributing
to these problems.  However I guess youre right, what I'm wearing
right now is a Hyundai, not that I have ever worn a pair of Mercedes
exactly.  Maybe a high end Toyota is what I'm used to.  Anyways as I
said do like the actual frames on these new glasses so I guess I'm
going to give them a chance.  It helps that my last 2 pairs of glasses
(which are several years old) are both terribly stretched and fall
down my nose and drive me crazy.  But yes I like the lenses in the old
ones better (and yes they both cost well over 2x what I paid at
eyebuydirect).  I compared them to my new ones and the mail order ones
for sure are greyer and have much more reflection and a thicker look.
The
new ones are a bit thicker on the edges, but the frames are wider than
either of my old ones.

When I wear the new ones I can even see reflection from the back of
the lens, I think!  That just doesnt happen with my store bought
ones.  I have to admit that my appearance is pretty important to me,
and I don't know that these "cut" it.  Plus things just dont look as
crisp with them at any distance and even colors seem "duller"
somehow.  I dont know that this is really a prescription issue, I'm
wondering if its just the "hyundai" lens quality.

Does anyone have any suggestions on better quality online glasses
sites that are still a bit more reasonably priced than stores?

Thanks!

On Nov 18, 10:19 am, "J. Evan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not all high index lenses are of the same quality. Not all anti
> reflective coatings are of the same quality. Not all frames are of the
> same quality.
>
> Lens manufacturers use different quality raw materials and different
> manufacturing processes and thus, quality will vary. These differences
> are more noticeable the higher index the lens. This is because you're
> bending light at a more extreme rate the higher index you use. The
> more you bend light, the greater you'll notice the deficiencies in the
> lens. Ask most professional photographers who makes the best quality
> lenses for their camera. They'll likely tell you Zeiss or Leica or
> Seiko, but these lenses are among the most expensive on the market.
> The professional photographer doesn't expect to go to a much less well
> known manufacturer in China and receive the same quality as the Leica
> but for far less. But that's basically what's happening with the
> majority of online discount eyeglass companies - and it's likely
> what's happened to you with eyebuydirect.
>
> That's not to say that your local optical shop always uses the top
> quality lenses or frames and charges you accordingly, but most of the
> time you get what you pay for.
>
> Most people might not notice the difference. Many people might notice
> a difference but weigh this against the lower price they paid. But if
> you're used to getting Seiko 1.67 aspheric quality lenses (and paying
> $300 for them), you'll be disappointed to discover that Zenni's $39
> upgrade for their 1.67 lenses just don't quite match up.
>
> Besides material quality and manufacturing quality control, the lens
> design is also important for high index lenses. That's likely what
> you're noticing when you looked in the mirror the other day. The base
> curve (the curve on the inside of the lens for you) varies depending
> on the design and shape and even the rotation of the lens if you have
> astigmatism.
>
> So, when you're buying frames and lenses online for a fraction of the
> cost of what you pay in your local store, you're not getting the exact
> same level of quality but for a lot less money. I've used the analogy
> in a previous thread of the Hyundai versus the Mercedes or Honda.
> Hyundai makes a fine car, with a great warranty for a very good price.
> For people who view a car as simply an appliance that transports them
> from place to place, they're fine with the Hyundai. But, no one
> rationally thinks that the Hyundai and the Mercedes cost the same to
> produce, except Mercedes simply pockets the rest as profit.
>
> You will need to decide for yourself whether the difference in price
> is worth the difference in quality.
>
> Having said that, I encourage you to keep trying your new glasses,
> give them a fair and honest chance - assuming the prescription is
> correct, most people really like their discount glasses they buy
> online.
>
> J. Evan
>
> On Nov 18, 4:46 am, dogkat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi, I've never posted here before but had read a bit, and was
> > reassured that buying glasses online might be worth a try.  I did, and
> > found some frames I thought I would like at eyebuydirect.com.  It
> > turns out I was right about the frames; they are just as nice as I'd
> > hoped and the price was great for them, as well as the 1.74 high index
> > lenses.  However, the lenses leave something to be desired.  Is it
> > just my pickiness?  I sort of wonder, but I dont think so.
>
> > I am rather nearsighted, over -8 in each eye, so I'm used to dealing
> > with thick lenses and how they look.  Every time I've bought at a
> > store, I've been instructed to buy the smaller frame size, and anti-
> > reflective coating, and I've most of the time been pretty happy at the
> > result.  But the glasses I got in the mail give me this VERY coke
> > bottle look, even from straight on.  Had to describe; the lenses are
> > pretty thin and dont go too much beyond the frames, but they somehow
> > dont seem to look as thin as they are, and I think this may have to do
> > with the curve of them on the back, and flat front surfaces,  as well
> > as what I think may be an inferior anti-reflective coating?  I mean, I
> > can tell the coating is there from the rainbow look when I look at
> > them in the light, but it's not that effective.  I was wearing them in
> > my car and happened to look at myself in the rear view mirror today
> > and the reflections were extremely bad.  The lenses themselves also
> > have a grey look to them even though I ordered no tint.
>
> > So I guess my question to those of you out there who know these things
> > is - what do I need to know when ordering (and paying extra for) super
> > high index lenses?  Do I really need to pay more for a name brand?
> > Due to an eye condition, I will now need to wear glasses a lot more of
> > the time than I used to, my eyes cant tolerate contacts as well, so
> > this is a big deal to me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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