William M Connolley wrote:


On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, James Annan wrote:

(actually, that was me quoting Kooiti Masuda, but never mind)

After all, we cannot simply assume that future generations are richer,

And yet this *is* the assumption that all the economic modelling makes. And it is supported by historical trends. Barring catastrophe, is there a plausible reason for it to be wrong (presumably in cash-type terms, interpreting "richer"
literally)?

The Stern report ends up deciding that a potential loss of 20% of future
consumption would be very bad, which is a loss on top of considerable gains. If you can plausibly assert that we wouldn't be richer at all, then in Stern terms
this is a complete disaster, with or without climate change.

I suspect that a large part of the general population is substantially confused on this point, and I have to wonder if some of it is deliberate. The presentation of much of this impacts stuff (especially, but not solely, Stern) is in terms of "losses". I've even seen the term "recession" widely used:

<http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=recession+stern+climate>

"catastrophic global recession", even - and explicit links to the Wall Street Crash and Great Depression.

However, in none of the projections and estimates is there actually any situation in which the global economy shrinks, or comes close to it. His standard estimate of a 5% cost of climate change actually means a growth rate of 2.25% pa rather than 2.3% over the next 100 years. Sure, that compounds to a 5% gap - people being only 9.5 times as rich rather than 10 times.

But tell me, seriously, even if it is true, am I supposed to care about that?

Have all the environmental activists who seized upon Stern with such glee really now decided that our lives should be devoted to maximising economic growth after all? Somehow, I doubt it. Strange bedfellows indeed...

James

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