On 16 May, 18:36, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The scientific concensus is that nuclear testing did not affect the climate,
> > therefore you will find there is little literature out there that supports
> > your view.
>
> > For peer reviewed science google for "nuclea winter".
>
> I think the "nuclear winter" calculations are based on smoke from
> widespread fires causing the cooling, it's not the nuclear explosion
> itself, if I understand this correctly.
>
> If there was evidence that the tests had affected climate, I am sure
> that would be in the literature, including the IPCC reports,
> especially so, if there was any realistic chance that it was the
> tests, rather than aerosols/natural variability that had caused the
> cooling up to the 1970's. This would matter a great deal to our
> understanding of the climate system and aerosols. If it's not there in
> the report, unless given good evidence to the contrary, and the
> speculations on the Daly site are not good evidence!,
I am not suggesting that Daly's opinions have any substance, but he
did write:
There was no shortage of scientific endorsement for the `Nuclear
Winter' scenario as the following scientific references will show, all
of them presumably peer-reviewed -
Paul J. Crutzen and John W. Birks, "The Atmosphere After a
Nuclear War: Twilight at Noon", Ambio, Vol 11, No 2-3, p 114, 1982.
Reprinted in Jeannie Peterson, Ed, The Aftermath: The Human and
Ecological Consequences of Nuclear War, New York, Pantheon, 1983.
R.P. Turco, O.B. Toon, T.P. Ackerman, J.B. Pollack, Carl Sagan,
"Nuclear Winter: Global Consequences of Multiple Nuclear Explosions",
Science, V. 222, No; 4630, December 23, 1983.
Paul Ehrlich et al., "Long-Term Biological Consequences of
Nuclear War," Science, V. 222, No. 4630, December 23, 1983.
Michael MacCracken, "Nuclear War: Preliminary estimates of the
climatic effects of a nuclear exchange", paper presented at Third
International Conference on Nuclear War, Erice, Sicily, August 19-23,
1983.
Curt Covey, Stephen H. Schneider, Starley L. Thompson, "Global
Atmospheric Effects of Massive Injections from a Nuclear War: Results
from General Circulation Model Simulations," Nature, Vol 308, No 5954,
March 1, 1984.
S.L. Thompson, V.V. Aleksandrov, G.L. Stenchikov, S.H.
Schneider, C. Covey and R.M. Chervin, "Global Climatic Consequences of
Nuclear War: Simulations with Three Dimensional Models," Ambio, Vol
13, No 4, p 236, 1984.
So I think John Daly fits well in the list of "useful idiots"!
Cheers, Alastair.
>
> I'll presume that the IPCC had good reason to summarily dismiss the
> idea.
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