On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Eric Swanson wrote:
> the sea-ice in the calculations.  Others have pointed out the low
> tensile strength of ice, but that wasn't what I was trying to deal
> with as much as the possible difference between first year and multi-
> year ice in terms of motion.  Using the viscous model, it would appear
> obvious that the first year ice should tend to move about much more
> easily than multi-year ice .

Only because its thicker, and it depends on the motion. In converging motion, 
yes, there will be less deformation. In diverging, the internal ice strength 
makes little difference.

> includes ice thickness, but I think it should.  As noted by Hunke and 
> Dukowicz, the viscosity used in the VP models extend over several orders of 
> magnitude, which is part of their motivation in offering their improved 
> model, 
> since their use of an elastic response speeds the computations considerably, 
> especially for short term transient situations.

Yes, but don't forget that the E in H+D is only a computational trick, and the 
scientific results are (nominally) identical.

-W.

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