On May 26, 2:59 am, jdannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> The ice
> >> melting and coldness of the meltwater itself are unimportant.
>
> > Is that because slow melting is always assumed?
>
> > Or because my back of the envelope is wrong? (and 1 W/m2 over fifty
> > years I suppose is only 0.17 W/m2 over 300 years)
>
> > Or because the cold is rapidly spread across the world / deep into the
> > ocean?
>
> Well in the case of the 50y collapse, I think we have bigger things to
> worry about.

What would be worse than the Greenland ice sheet disappearing in 50
years?

> Also, note that when the surface of the ice sheet gets wet,
> this changes its albedo substantially for the worse, so a chunk of that
> 1W will come for free (from the POV of the rest of the climate system).

So albedo will accelaerate the Greenland ice melt as well as the
Arctic sea ice melt?

> OTOH there may well be some inconsistency with an assumption of rapid
> melt, overturning shutdown, and local cooling (which would presumably
> slow the rapid melt). Somewhat similar to the assumption of economic
> meltdown due to the rapidly rising emissions of rapidly growing economies...

So, the north Atlantic will get warmer not cooler?

Cheers, Alastair.
>
> James

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