On Dec 13, 8:45 pm, Hank Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
> > everyone knows that CO2 is saturated
>
> Well, no, a fairly small group of people assert that everyone knows
> that in theory but it needed to be tested.
> It has been now:
>
> See:  http://ams.confex.com/ams/Annual2006/techprogram/paper_100737.htm

Thanks Hank.

They write:

"The experimental fluxes are simulated well by the FASCOD3 radiation
code. This code has been used to calculate the model predicted
increase in surface radiative forcing since 1850 to be 2.55 W/m2. In
comparison, an ensemble summary of our measurements indicates that an
energy flux imbalance of 3.5 W/m2 has been created by anthropogenic
emissions of greenhouse gases since 1850. This experimental data
should effectively end the argument by skeptics that no experimental
evidence exists for the connection between greenhouse gas increases in
the atmosphere and global warming."

I am not arguing "that no experimental evidence exists for the
connection between greenhouse gas increases in the atmosphere and
global warming."  I am arguing that the heating effect is being under-
estimated, which rather agrees with their results that show an
increase of 3.5 W/m^2, 40% higher than the calculated value of 2.55 W/
m^2. In Table 4 of the Extended Abstract, for CO2 the measured
increase is 2.10 W/m^2, 60% higher that the model value of 1.30 W/
m^2.  That hardly points to climate science being settled!

But I will have to study it a bit more closely because it seems to run
counter to my ideas :-(

Cheers, Alastair.

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