Dear Per, I really don't know why I bother. No one is talking about more than 2 to 3 decades of no warming from 1998. This seems to be the pattern of ocean and atmospheric temperatures in the instrumental record. I didn't interpret anything but simply copied the quotes from Dr Latiff and Anastasios Tsonis. Both highly respected scientists in the field - and both of whom have said similar things in peer reviewed literature.
You are being a drongo - as we say in Oz - and so are the guys at Nature. You can't really ignore the prospect of 2 to 3 decades of no warming and expect to be taken seriously. This is a hole in climate science that you can drive jumbo jet through. Seriously - 50% of recent warming being ocean cycles? I can't quite grasp the mindset of someone who can see this and continue to plug faithfully the party line. Perhaps you could explain to me how this does not contradict the central finding of the IPCC that most recent warming has anthropogenic origins or that temperature will rise at 0.2 degrees C/decade for the first few decades on the 21st century? Cheers Robert On Jan 22, 8:28 am, Per Edman <[email protected]> wrote: > Robbo, > > I don't believe Professor Latif agrees with your, or the Daily Mail's, > interpretation of his opinion: > > > Dr. LATIF: If my name was not Mojib Latif, my name would be global > > warming. So I really believe in Global Warming.> Okay. However, you know, we > have to accept that there are these natural > > fluctuations, and therefore, the temperature > > > may not show additional warming temporarily. > > Do read > more:http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120668812&ft=1&f... > > / Per > > 2010/1/21 Robbo <[email protected]> > > > > > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242202/Could-30-years-global... > > > Professor Latif said: 'A significant share of the warming we saw from > > 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th century was due to > > these cycles - as much as 50 per cent. > > > 'They have now gone into reverse, so winters like this one will become > > much more likely. All this may well last two decades or longer. > > > 'The extreme retreats that we have seen in glaciers and sea ice will > > come to a halt. For the time being, global warming has paused, and > > there may well be some cooling.' > > > Many meteorologists have blamed the current freeze on 'Arctic > > oscillation' - a weather pattern in which areas of high pressure have > > pushed the warming jetstream away from Britain. They have insisted > > this temporary change will have no effect on long-term warming > > patterns. > > > But another expert, Professor Anastasios Tsonis, head of the > > University of Wisconsin Atmospheric Sciences Group, said MDOs will > > continue to determine global temperatures. > > > He said: 'They amount to massive rearrangements in the dominant > > patterns of the weather, and their shifts explain all the major > > changes in world temperatures during the 20th and 21st centuries. We > > have such a change now.' > > > Read more: > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242202/Could-30-years-global... > > -- > / Per -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Global Change ("globalchange") newsgroup. Global Change is a public, moderated venue for discussion of science, technology, economics and policy dimensions of global environmental change. Posts will be admitted to the list if and only if any moderator finds the submission to be constructive and/or interesting, on topic, and not gratuitously rude. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/globalchange
