I linked to the 2006 NAS report for multiple reconstructions and added a no tree ring version for completeness. I quoted the NAS - on the 'plausibility' of Mann's claims. The WSJ article discussed the midleading 'simplicity' of the IPCC version of the hockey stick.
I can't really argue one way or the other about which version is correct - they all have huge uncertainties which increase the further back in time you go. It seems very like the ocean heat content discussion. Has ocean heat increased since ARGO commenced in 2003? There are at least half a dozen versions - none of which agree. Of course you can always argue that the one that suits the postmodernist political agenda is the right one - hint Karen Schuckmann et al (2009?) is the one showing an increase. The planet warms and cools - since the LIA at least according to the NAS - and on interannual to decadal timescales. The reasons why are in my climate sensitivity post. Try responding to that if you want to be relevant. On Feb 28, 12:43 am, Eric Swanson <[email protected]> wrote: > Robert, the meat of that WSJ article is the reference to an e-mail > from 1999. Are you claiming that no further research has been > conducted since? Get real, the Earth is warming. Other than that, > the article isn't bad, considering it's published in the prime > mouthpiece of the capitalist world, an institution dedicated to the > exploitation (and thus destruction) of the natural world. > > Oh, have you read my paper yet? Can't find a copy in your local > university library? Could it be that E&E isn't considered a > scientific journal, so they don't spend the money to archive it? > Well, in that case, perhaps you will just have to ask the author for a > pre-print, like the rest of us do... > > E. S. > ----------------------------- > On Feb 26, 9:09 pm, Robert I Ellison <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > And there is this I have just published in the Wall Street Journal - > > if anything is fatally compromised it is the bloody hockey stick. > > >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870418810457508368131983...- > >Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Global Change ("globalchange") newsgroup. Global Change is a public, moderated venue for discussion of science, technology, economics and policy dimensions of global environmental change. Posts will be admitted to the list if and only if any moderator finds the submission to be constructive and/or interesting, on topic, and not gratuitously rude. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/globalchange
