Robert,

Where did I "Minimize the risk of abrupt climate change"?  I think you
need to check your reading comprehension abilities.
You seem to have missed my repeated mention of the possibility of a
shutdown of the THC, which might well happen rather rapidly and thus
appear to be abrupt.  Then, too, there's evidence that the THC in the
Greenland Sea did slow or stop in the early 1980's after the Great
Salinity Anomaly, at about the same time your Pacific Oscillation
appeared.  I suggest that the change in the Pacific may have been a
result.

May I also point out also that the Holocene began 10,000 years ago,
not 12,000 and the Younger Dryas was over by then.  Yes, the YD began
quickly.  But, the forcing which caused the YD was related to the
existence of the ice sheets over Canada, a situation which does not
apply in today's climate.  Thus, the rapid shutdown of the THC which
is thought to have resulted from catastrophic flooding can not happen
in the same way.  There are, however, other mechanisms which could
produce similar results and many climate models do show a weakening of
the THC as GHGs build up.

While we are on the subject, there is indirect evidence that there's
been another weakening or shutdown of the THC in the Greenland Sea for
the past 3 winters.  Could have had something to do with the exciting
winter which just visited Europe and parts of the Eastern US.  Sad to
say, without direct evidence, I can say no more...

E. S.
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Robert I Ellison wrote:
> Eric,
>
> You want to limit the topic to 69 Swedish scientists?  LOL.  As you
> know, I think the reality is abrupt climate change rather than global
> warming as such.  I don't minimise for a moment the risk of abrupt
> climate change but many others will - as does the 'ultra conservative'
> blog I linked to.

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