AppData is a poor choice for program files. Advice to the question on:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1831810/is-appdata-now-the-correct-place-to-install-user-specific-apps-which-modify-t
is more nuanced.

I wasted a lot of time trying to get the installer to install in Program Files; 
the installer should have just asked for elevated privileges, or explained why 
it couldn't install there. Documents is a better default choice. Install app in 
Program Files, copy data app will use to User AppData  directory. Split tree 
approach. I wound up installing everything in AppData, just because that's what 
the installer wanted.

Tried the zip bundle; unzipped GMAT refused to recognise Matlab, so could not 
reproduce crash conditions.

Looking at renderings, I don't see why GMAT can't work with integrated 
graphics; rendering texturemapped balls is not exactly complicated.
Laptops with integrated Intel graphics are widely available; I suggest testing 
with them.

Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/


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From: Parker, Joel J. K. (GSFC-5950) [joel.j.k.par...@nasa.gov]
Sent: 12 July 2013 18:26
To: Wood L  Dr (Electronic Eng); gmat-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: djci...@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: installing GMAT - crashes

Hi Lloyd, thanks for the feedback!

Yes, as you suspected, the install location is in AppData because it's a 
per-user install, not a machine-wide install (to avoid needing elevated 
privileges). GMAT expects to write files to its own directory as a matter of 
course, so defaulting to a system-wide location like Program Files would break 
when GMAT is later run as a normal user.

Microsoft recommends the AppData location for per-user software, but we've 
tried to mitigate it somewhat by putting a link to the GMAT folder in the Start 
menu (Start > Programs > GMAT > GMAT R2013a > Open GMAT folder). An optional 
Desktop shortcut is a good idea. On my machine, I actually installed it to a 
location inside my Documents folder, for easy access.

The crash is interesting... if it's related to integrated graphics, we 
unfortunately have no way to reproduce it here (none of our dev machines have 
Intel graphics). Where did you end up installing GMAT? Does the crash still 
happen when you obtain GMAT from the .zip bundle instead of the installer?

Sorry for the trouble,

Joel Parker



-----Original Message-----
From: l.w...@surrey.ac.uk [mailto:l.w...@surrey.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:59 PM
To: gmat-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: djci...@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Gmat-users] installing GMAT - crashes

Hello,

I attempted to install GMAT using the R2013a installer on a Windows 7 machine 
that already had Matlab.

Problem 1: installer insists on putting files in 
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\GMAT No desktop shortcuts to this are installed as 
far as I can see.

AppData is usually a hidden directory, so this is an extremely odd choice - to 
avoid permissions problems on locked-down machines where users do not have 
admin privileges? Attempted to select elsewhere (e.g. Program Files, or new 
directory in Program Files), failed. Okay, binary is in GMAT\bin, let's not 
click the uninstall icon in the main GMAT folder, go.

Problem 2: it crashes before displaying any renderings once a script is run. 
I'm guessing it's not happy with integrated graphics? Toshiba L500-19Z has 
Intel GMA 4500M HD. Even if it can't work with integrated graphics, it should 
fail more gracefully.

regards

Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/


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