> On 22 Mar 2020, at 16:50, paul francedixhuit <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  Hi All
> 
> Recently I found interesting discussions about hdf5 and gmsh (see 
> https://gitlab.onelab.info/gmsh/gmsh/issues/552). On my side I had to look to 
> xmdf format 2 years ago that seemed to be interesting to my applications 
> (mechanical engineering). Finally I gave up because of difficulties and xdmf 
> developments not really active.
> 
> I'm using hdf5 files through h5py Python library to deal with huge amount of 
> data, in either static conditions or transitory ones.
> 
> In the meantime gmsh team has developed the format 4.1 and I've to dig into 
> it;  I saw about Python API and I'm not familiar with, but not sure that's 
> I'm looking for. In my opinion it'll be very useful and powerful to be able 
> to import datasets from hdf5 files directly from the gmsh native file, 
> especially for post-processing purposes; let me developing:
> - by import I mean calling, not intending to write it in an ascii format; 
> similar to "h5.get" for people who are familiar to h5py library

The Gmsh Python API is one way to go here: it allows you to both get and set 
the mesh and post-processing data, so you could easily use the data store of 
your choice, e.g. HDF5 through h5py. 

> - I'm not speaking about HPC modelings where huge meshes and models can be 
> post-processed using dozens or hundreds of cores, but about a common PC or a 
> working station having limited resources compared to HPC servers,
> - When working on models having a million of 2nd order elements, and dozens 
> of time steps, dealing with different variables (up to 3 displacement 
> components, up to 6 for the stress ones, and so on), all results cannot be 
> loaded in a single native .pos file due to obvious computing limitations
> 

You shouldn't indeed use parsed .pos files. But you can clearly use .msh files, 
which can contain post-processing data and have nice features for very large 
datasets: 

- the mesh can be stored in one or more files
- post-processing data can be stored along with the mesh, or separately
- each step (e.g. time step) in a multi-step post-processing view can be stored 
in a separate file
- moreover, each step can be split into arbitrary partitions, each in a 
separate file

Hope this helps,

Christophe


> While using hdf5 in native gmsh file, I've been thinking it may answer to 
> this because:
> - hdf5 files are optimized for I/O in terms of speed and memory; for example 
> only datasets you need are loaded and not the entire file: it's fast 
> accordingly
> - data can be compressed in hdf5 file
> - a dataset is a block of data (typically a matrix)
> - in practice in gmsh, only some data are plotted at the same time and not 
> all: for example not relevant to plot Von Mises stress and equivalent strain 
> at the same time, or as well initial time step and final one
> - in other word, only what you need is "uploaded" through something like 
> import "myhdf5\dataset129" (is slicing will be possible?)
> - each dataset is built following gmsh format
> - as many import as necessary will be done due to different dataset sizes: 
> one per element type (triangles, quads, tets, hex, wedges, and so on)
> - 1 dataset per element = elements ordering might be a limitation I think 
> (speed down), except if it can be anticipated
> - if slicing not possible, well data must be duplicated (higher file size), 
> but fast reading in practice
> - and so on
> 
> I've been using hdf5 files for some time, and it's now an essential part of 
> my data management: I'm sure gmsh will take huge advantages to integrate it.
> 
> I'll be happy to discuss further about it
> 
> Thanks to gmsh team for their works
> 
> Paul
> 
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— 
Prof. Christophe Geuzaine
University of Liege, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science 
http://www.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~geuzaine




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