Mark:

Thanks for the rapid reply. I have made minor modifications to the ffG43a1 force field (the one giving me these errors), but they are really considerably minor. I have added an Azide molecule to the rtp file (and corresponding atoms to the atp, etc.) and I have also added an NME (similar to the NME in the charmm force field).

I decided to go ahead and untar the original 3.3 distribution, and go back to the original ffG43a1 force field. This still did not solve the problem. In fact, my small molecule is diglycine. If I run it with neutral termini, I managed to get it to run through em, after simply changing the box of water size (from 1.2 nm to 1.0 nm). This leads me to believe it is a problem with the solvation. In fact, often times the waters that exhibit infinite force are in the bulk (not even close to the solute). This happens if I keep it solvated in spc, or change it to spc/e.

The molecule is run through pdb2gmx_d with the following options: 0 (ffG43a1) -ter 0 (NH3+) 0 (COO-). With those options for a simple diglycine, genbox_d should be able to solvate it fine. Also, pdb2gmx_d shouldn't have trouble making a top file, either. From inspecting the topology file, it looks perfectly fine. (two glycine residues, correct atoms and types, good charges, includes all the correct itp files).

Finally, yes: the infinite force always occurs in step 0 with grid searching.

My shell script only requires an initial pdb file to run, I can send it along if it would help diagnose whether or not my version of gmx is running correctly. (It is an unmodified source code, so it should be). I just am unsure of what else could possibly be going wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Justin

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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:19:31 +1000
From: Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Failed Energy Minimization
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <[email protected]>
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Justin M. Shorb wrote:
Greetings:

I have been having trouble running any energy minimization with any sort
of system. I have small polypeptides in water, and then large proteins
in water with the same error message:

No matter what run parameters I get, I always get ci = -2147483648. Even different systems. (This, I realize is simply numerically infinity). If I try running with ns_type = simple, the em runs until it hits around 35 and then says it didn't converge. Since I am running grompp_d -v, I get
that there are certain atoms that have infinite potential. But,
depending on the system, the atom type (solvent or molecule) changes.

This suggests a problem with your force field and/or topology.

I have noted that previous posts have been answered with an admonition: "Find out which atoms are infinite force, and then fix it." I suppose I
could go through, find the atoms and remove those waters that overlap,
but shouldn't this be taken into account by the genbox_d program? I also have tried to increase the vdw radii in the vdwradii.dat file to have it
delete more waters. But, even after having 60 fewer waters around a 88
kD protein, the system still fails to energy minimize.

This suggests that the source of the problem isn't that these atoms
start life too close together, but maybe they're moving too close
together because of some other problem? (Unless the error is always
happening before the first EM step)

Given that this seems to be a common problem in solvating a system, are
there better options (options for genbox??) than running the following
shell commands? The em.mdp file is also shown below.

That all seems fine.

Mark
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