Sai Pooja wrote:
Hi,

I am trying to reproduce results from a paper which uses this cutoff. The work is on loop-folding and they use implicit solvent. I am using explicit solvent with charmm 27. Below is my mdp file. I am not sure if there is any advantage in using a large cut-off.



Large cutoffs can cause artifacts. This .mdp file also does not match the error message you quoted before. If it is indeed accurate, then it looks like your .mdp file is being interpreted incorrectly (2.0-nm cutoffs instead of 1.8 nm). If there is a misinterpretation, file a bugzilla. If you've simply posted the wrong file, please post the correct file, if necessary. But I'd suggest you do some homework about the effects of long cutoffs, especially if they deviate from what the force field derivation requires.

-Justin

; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS
title = NVT simulation (constant number, pressure and temperature)
cpp                      = /lib/cpp
define                   =-DPOSRES

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator               = md
dt                       = 0.002
nsteps                   = 100000

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout                  = 10000
nstvout                  = 0
nstfout                  = 0
nstlog                   = 10000
nstenergy                = 10000
nstxtcout                = 0
xtc_precision            = 0
xtc-grps                 = System
energygrps               = Protein Non-Protein

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist                  = 5
ns-type                  = Grid
pbc                      = xyz
rlist                    = 1.8

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype              = PME
fourierspacing           = 0.12
rcoulomb                 = 1.8
epsilon_rf               = 78
vdw-type                 = Cut-off
rvdw                     = 1.8

; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used =
fourier_nx               = 0
fourier_ny               = 0
fourier_nz               = 0
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters =
pme_order                = 4
ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
epsilon_surface          = 0
optimize_fft             = no

; Temperature coupling Tcoupl = Berendsen
tc-grps                  = Protein  Non-Protein
tau_t                    = 0.2      0.2
ref_t                    = 300      300

; Pressure coupling Pcoupl = Berendsen
Pcoupltype               = Isotropic
tau_p                    = 1.0
compressibility          = 4.5e-5
ref_p                    = 1.0

; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN
gen_vel = no ; Assign velocities to particles by taking them randomly from a Maxwell distribution gen_temp = 300.0 ; Temperature to generate corresponding Maxwell distribution gen_seed = 9999 ; Seed for (semi) random number generation.


; OPTIONS constraints = all-bonds

Pooja







On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Sai Pooja wrote:

        Hi,

        I am getting these notes when I run grompp:

        NOTE 3 [file Init/ffsb_init.top]:
         The largest charge group contains 12 atoms.
         Since atoms only see each other when the centers of geometry of
        the charge
         groups they belong to are within the cut-off distance, too
        large charge
         groups can lead to serious cut-off artifacts.
         For efficiency and accuracy, charge group should consist of a
        few atoms.
         For all-atom force fields use: CH3, CH2, CH, NH2, NH, OH, CO2,
        CO, etc.

        initialising group options...
        processing index file...
        Analysing residue names:
        There are:  3484      OTHER residues
        There are:    67    PROTEIN residues
        There are:     0        DNA residues
        There are:     0        RNA residues
        Analysing Protein...
        Analysing Other...
        Making dummy/rest group for Acceleration containing 11343 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for Freeze containing 11343 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for VCM containing 11343 elements
        Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group Protein is 1777.76
        Number of degrees of freedom in T-Coupling group non-Protein is
        20898.23
        Making dummy/rest group for User1 containing 11343 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for User2 containing 11343 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for XTC containing 10450 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for Or. Res. Fit containing 11343 elements
        Making dummy/rest group for QMMM containing 11343 elements
        T-Coupling       has 2 element(s): Protein non-Protein
        Energy Mon.      has 2 element(s): Protein non-Protein
        Acceleration     has 1 element(s): rest
        Freeze           has 1 element(s): rest
        User1            has 1 element(s): rest
        User2            has 1 element(s): rest
        VCM              has 1 element(s): rest
        XTC              has 2 element(s): Protein rest
        Or. Res. Fit     has 1 element(s): rest
        QMMM             has 1 element(s): rest
        Checking consistency between energy and charge groups...
        Largest charge group radii for Van der Waals: 0.288, 0.263 nm
        Largest charge group radii for Coulomb:       0.288, 0.263 nm

        NOTE 4 [file nvtp.mdp]:
         The sum of the two largest charge group radii (0.551009) is
        larger than
         rlist (2.000000) - rvdw (2.000000)

        Can someone tell me how to correct these?


    Note 3 is explained in detail in the error message.  Beyond that,
    read about the group concept in the manual.

    I've never seen Note 4 before, but a 2-nm cutoff is a bit strange
    for a protein simulation.  Any reason you're using such large
    cutoffs?  You may also want to provide your whole .mdp file to see
    if anyone can spot the underlying issue.

    -Justin

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