Dave Crossland wrote: > > However, the "hosted" in "hosted webapp" is important. I can barely > keep up with how to do residential class systems and network > administration, because my job is not in the sysad business. > Administering a webapp is far far outside the ken of most users.
This is a valid concern. Local GUGs and in general any groups of users can organize to solve this problem by running a server and sharing the costs between themselves. Friends can give accounts to their friends and to the friends of their friends. > That webapps are non-free is a relatively recent concept for me, as > the software is not running on my computer. So you wouldn't mind running Opera on X exported display? What computer the software is running on, and by which protocol the user is interacting with it is a technical detail for me. > The Allegro clause in GPLv3 is only an option, though. So its unclear > to me how to consider webapps. You mean the "Affero" clause, I guess. AFAIK FSF doesn't have a firm opinion about this issue, because of the "freedom to choose not to disclose the changes you make". I think that the public must prevail so I cannot justify the action of one entity exercising this freedom and harming hundreds (millions) of users. Do note that FSF supports and uses Savane, which was specifically launched to solve the problem with the SourceForge webapp software, when it became non-free. Also, the "Search" at www.gnu.org is powered by htdig, not Google. > Search engines, eBay, Amazon, Lulu, and so on - all are webapps whose > functionality can't be replicated by locally installed software. What > *can* we do? First, the problem must be recognized and the community has to fight to solve it. Savane and GForge are escape from non-free software with that particular functionality and there are websites that host projects using them -- savannah.gnu.org, gna.org, alioth.debian.org, openfmi.net and others -- and yet, many free software developers choose to register their new projects at sf.net or other sites that use non-free software. _______________________________________________ gNewSense-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users
