On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 11:08 -0400, Justin Baugh wrote: > > Folks, this is a -devel list, primarily for discussion of work that people > > are actually doing on Gobuntu. Most of the traffic so far as been "what we > > want from Gobuntu" not "what we will put into Gobuntu". Please don't use > > this list as a forum for demands about your ideal platform - use it to > > discuss the work you are willing to put into bringing Gobuntu more into > > line with that ideal. > > Gobuntu exists as a forum for action - it will only be as good as the > > effort that goes into it. Colin, Evan, Daniel Holbach and others will help > > anyone who wants to put time and effort into Gobuntu achieve that goal. > > Mark > > > > EXCUSE ME?! > > > > Is he saying that, of all the feedback and ideas on how to make Gobuntu > > more free he is acturaly telling us to basicaly shut up?! > > You missed his point entirely. > > What Shuttleworth is saying is that much like on this mailing list, there > are lots of people occasionally clamoring for a feature or something they > want - but want someone else to do it for them. Very rarely on this list > (*please* correct me if I am wrong) do you see someone propose a feature > that they actually implement themselves. PFV is the only exception of
We have a few of people coming with a request, and then disapearing when they get told whats involved (typically backport requests). > something that lots of people are helping with (btw Chris, as a sidenote, > I disagree entirely that the bottleneck for having a updated gNS release > is PFV. It would seem to be instead exclusively related to available > developer time). As i understand it, its not a bottle neck in a serious way. its *awsome* to have it done, but until we arnt working on our next release because its not done its not a bottle neck. Since gNS's goal was to base off ubuntu LTS releases, we arnt there yet :) > > He's basically saying that people making endless requests is unhelpful. > And you know what? He's right. It's far more helpful for someone to > discuss what work they can actually do to achieve a goal rather than to > just clamor for the goal over and over again. He's not telling people to > shut up - rather, to put up. gNS should illustrate that making a totally > free OS is not an easy task, and not to be taken lightly. Action is worth > ten thousand words. At least gNS has a 'how to help' page, and definitions as to what should be taken out (etc). gobuntu currently lacks these. > > I don't think his response is so horrible, personally. I'm more than happy > to entertain a discussion of why it is, however. > > -Justin -- Karl Goetz, Debian user / Ubuntu contributer / gNewSense contributer http://www.kgoetz.id.au _______________________________________________ gNewSense-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users
