On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:21, Rob Lembree wrote: > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:06, Bruce Dawson wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 08:26, Ed Lawson wrote: > > > On 27 Jan 2004 22:13:06 -0500 > > > Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'd like to suggest that the groups have created a comfortable > > > > structure and that they feel they don't need Quarterly "global" > > > > meetings anymore. But that they do like (or don't care about) the > > > > infrastructure that GNHLUG set up, and might continue to use it - > > > > especially when one finds a "big name" to come speak. Sorta like BLU, > > > > SwANH, and GNSEG do with GNHLUG. > > > > > > I suppose I should keep quiet because I have not helped out as I should > > > and the current state is the result of people like me not doing anything > > > to help GNHLUG and Centralug grow. However, talk is cheap. > > > > Good. You're not keeping quiet! Talk may be cheap, but it "gets the > > juices going". > > > > I believe you have your gripes with the group - considering all the > > "waffling" we've done on the "formalization" of the group. Which is > > something I'm not opposed to, but I am opposed to asking for fees from > > "members" to support the "formalization". > We have the paperwork complete, and I am willing to donate the > $25 filing fee -- but I haven't done it yet because I've seen > a complete vacuum in people coming forward to help do things > with the group.
Thanks for donating the fee - I never knew what was going on with that because no one bothered to post a message to the -org list. Hmm. Maybe the real problem is lack of appropriate communications instead of member apathy. I've often wondered about this - to the point of wondering if I forgot to say something. What things need doing? > Case in point: I'm now doing the public library project all > by myself, because it's something I believe it, and because > nobody stepped forward to help out. I'm now afraid that if > I act as a leader, I'll end up doing all the work. I think you're doing the right thing - then advertise the effort to the GNHLUG group. Sure, solicit help, (which you did), and it'll come if there's sufficient interest. If enough good things are done in the name of GNHLUG, then people will start coming again. But we need to be careful that we don't overwhelm ourselves with work. > The reason for formalizing was not to collect dues, it was to > give a tax beneficial structure for an active group to do some > good things for the community and our members. But if we're > not doing anything, or if only a few people are doing things, > it just doesn't make sense. I know that was the reason. But frequently, the financial tail ends up wagging the dog, and I want to avoid that. If the fees and dues required of the formalization require us to start asking for membership fees, then I just want to avoid that. > > Seems to me, we just need someone to "take charge" and do it - if we > > don't like it, then we can leave. Sorta like what maddog did back in the > > early days - when things were exciting. > Do what? I wanted us to get out and do some good things for Linux > and ourselves, but failed to get anyone to help out. Sigh. See > what I mean? Do anything! Like the library project! Like the web site. Like the distribution disks. Like the booth at Hosstraders. It seems we have a problem coordinating things with multiple people (except probably drinking beer), so maybe we should just stick with one-person projects until someone comes along and shows us how to do things as a team. Rob, I'm not intending to pick on you. Or your excellent and valiant leadership. Its just that the problem seems very related to the New Englander mode of "doing things"... Do it yourself and if anyone complains - well that's their fault.
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
