Today, Jerry Feldman gleaned this insight:
> Bob,
> I cry real tears for you :-). My previous contract was as an HP consultant
> at Raytheon where my job was supposed to write device drivers. Went up to
> the Sudbury plant where they had the board I was to use, but they were
> unable to grant me root priviledge on the system I was to use to write the
> device driver. The systems people would not relent. After weeks of this, we
> decided to move the project to my office in the Bedford plant where I did
> have root priviledge. At Raytheon virtually noone has root priviledge on
> their work stations except the system management team members. Couldn't
> wait until the end of that contract.
But their engineers manage to get stuff done... It CAN be done. It just
requires a change in the way you think and work. The system
administration team needs to spend some effort, in many cases, to show
users HOW to do what they need to do, because the users won't always know.
everyone has a different level of understanding of how Unix works.
And the real problem is, that communication often doesn't happen.
Sometimes because the admins themselves don't really have much of a clue.
it's unfortunate, but that's life I guess...
> Bob Bell wrote:
>
> > I also never quite know what I am going to need to do next. This
> > makes it hard to just grant certain priveleges. It would be a *huge*
> > damper on productivity if I had to ask for permission each time I
> > needed to try something different as root. And what would be the
> > point of using sudo to grant full access to everything?
I didn't realize this went to the list... it showed up in my private
inbox, apparently the list was BCC'd? I've been replying privately to
these... :-/
I'll repost my reply so people can ridicule it... :)
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