I work in the applet world.  We have a product whose applet queries a state
engine to see if either a help-desk agent or the caller has changed URL.  If
so, the OTHER party's URL is stuffed into my browser.  This enables a page
touch from the one side to "push" to the other side.

I think your applet fix would fall apart in our world...  The applet (as I
understand things) is called from a browser which establishes it's context
into which it pushes URLs.

I only said this to say as we get more and more sophisticated, the JVM
inside browsers is becoming something vendors are relying upon...

DaveN
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl J. Runge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Security hole in Netscape's JVM


>
>
> Jeffrey Smith wrote:
> ...
> > Of course, I've been suggesting turning off Java in your browser for
> >       performance reasons (and Netscape crashes with it on, IMHO).
>
> I, too, have had Java turned off in Netscape for quite a while for the
> same reasons.  But on the rare occasions I *want* to view a java applet
> it is inconvenient to turn it on temporarily thru "Preferences..." and
> remember to shut it off...
>
> So I just created a hack that let's me easily view Java applets w/o
> using Netscapes buggy & insecure JVM! When I get to a page with some
> java applet I want to run, I highlight the URL and then press a wm
> hot-key to launch the JDK's "appletviewer" on the X-selection.
>
> This way I now almost never have to have Netscape load its buggy JVM,
> I can select which java applets run (default being to not run them),
> and when I exit the appletviewer the memory is reclaimed.
>
> Now how long before I hit a page where this scheme doesn't work.... :-)
>
>
> Karl Runge
>
>
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