First, a brief public service message:

  Notice that I've changed the subject line to reflect the new subject of this
thread.  Proper subject naming can make a mailing list *much* easier to read.  
I was rather annoyed to have to wade through 40+ messages entitled "KSCLUG" to
find the ones that actually had to do with the KSCLUG.

  </SOAPBOX>

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Tony Lambiris wrote:
>> Which is great if you don't need anything... but if you use/need/want a
 > lot of packages, this isn't particularly efficient.
> 
> Why isn't this efficient.  Install what you need. What could be more
> efficient than that?

  There is more then one kind of efficiency.

  If you're measuring time to copy files or disk space used, then yes, of
course installing less is going to take less time.

  If you're measuring administrative effort, then often it is much easier to
simply install everything so you'll have it if you need it.

> Install a basic system, and install only the stuff you need.
> I'm guessing you've never used the ports system that come with the BSD's?

  The ports system isn't magic, nor is it unique.  Nor is it the best in all
possible ways.  I see no point in starting a debate about the pros and cons of
the way the BSDs do it here, unless we've got an abnormally high concentration
of package management tool developers here.

  For those who don't know: The popular BSD systems use a system called
"ports" for much of their package management.  It takes its name from the act
of "porting" a software package over to BSD from some other system.  Most
anything not considered part of the core of the BSD Unix operating system is a
port.  Installing a port is pretty easy, you just do a "cd /usr/ports/*" and
then issue some "make" commands.  The port system will download the
appropriate source packages, unpack them, build the program, and install it.

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Kurth Bemis wrote:
> in a related not openBSD minimum install ins like 50 megs...... and 20 of
> that its the ports tree :-)

  A minimum install of one well-known Linux distro?  One floppy disk.

  Pointless flamewars?  Worthless.

  :-)

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