>> I've always wondered how this can work.  Isn't SNMP
>> encapsulated in IP?
>
>Nearly always in UDP/IP.


Understood, though that would require that the modems have IP addrs.


>(but I've seen SNMP/IPX as well, as well as experimental SNMP/TCP/IP
>stuff too.)
>
>> If our modems are manipulable
>> via SNMP doesn't that imply that they themselves have
>> IP addrs distinct from our own?
>
>Yes -- iff they are manipulated via standard SNMP.
>
>> Can I ping my modem?
>
>Maybe.  Does traceroute tell you anything interesting?


Nope; it's completely transparent:

>traceroute to semolina.ne.mediaone.net (24.128.17.141), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>                                 .
>                                 .
>                                 .
>                                 .
>                                 .
>16 lwgsr01-lrgsr01.ne.mediaone.net (24.128.190.57) 19.796 ms 18.075 ms 19.124 ms
>17 lwrtr01-lwgsr01.ne.mediaone.net (24.128.190.42) 18.840 ms 20.205 ms 18.959 ms
>18 semolina.ne.mediaone.net        (24.128.17.141) 21.853 ms 20.973 ms 20.615 ms


So without an IP addr to point my pings (or SNMP traffic) at,
is there any way to talk to (rather than through) our modems?
Special raw Enet frames, maybe?



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