Benjamin Scott said:
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Brad Maxwell wrote:
>> rising to the bait with a minimum of effort:
>[ Sun marketing document deleted]
>
>  Great Gods, I don't think I've ever seen anything say so much and yet tell
>me so little.  Did Sun get that right from the Dilbert Buzzword 
Generator, or
>what?  :-)

Hey, what do you expect from a large company?  Someone has to play 
buzzword bingo ;)

>
>  What does J2EE actually do for me, in the context of a web site?  I'm aware
>of all the benefits (real or otherwise) of Java in general.  But what is 
there
>that makes it a web development framework (like Zope or MS-ASP or CF), 
and not
>just another implementation language (like C++ or Perl or Python)?

OK, I'm not the expert on this (and I wasn't at last night's meeting, so 
I'll let the Java experts correct me), but J2EE is NOT a new language, but 
a defined set of API's and Java classes that create an application 
framework.

So, for example, under J2EE, there's a defined way to start & stop a 
transaction, to maintain session state, for various modules (called 
JavaBeans in Java) to interact, specifically with defined interfaces for 
finding interfaces and for getting and setting properties.  All of this is 
aimed at the needs of enterprise type stuff, such as e-commerce.  Some of 
the services include (blatently taken from one of the IBM links below):
- Java Interface Definition Language (IDL)  - Similar to corba IDL
 - Java Message Service (JMS) API - how messages get passed around
- Java Naming and Directory Interface (JNDI)  - how objects get named and 
found (based on LDAP)
-  Java Remote Method Invocation (RMI) and Object Serialization - calling 
remote objects, and passing them around / saving them
-  Java Servlet API - fundamental API for calling Web Services in Java
-  Java Transaction API (JTA) - calling transactions
-  Java Transaction Service (JTS)  - services to do transactions, so you 
don't have to
-  JavaServer Pages (JSP) technology - Java equivilent of ASP, PHP, etc
-   JDBC database access API - Java equivalent of ODBC

Some good links are from IBM (who, I believe, actually wrote most of the 
J2EE specs):
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-con3.html
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/what-are-ejbs/part1/inde
x.html?dwzone=java
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/what-are-ejbs/part2/inde
x.html?dwzone=java
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/what-are-ejbs/part3/inde
x.html?dwzone=java

>
>  (I'm aware of tonight's meeting topic.  Forgive me, but I've been on the
>road most days the past few weeks, and I really don't feel like making 
the one
>hour drive up to Concord (and then back again).  You don't have to write a
>three page brochure; a sentence or two would be cool.  Or a URL for a 
document
>written for engineers and not PHBs. :)

Alas, I couldn't make it, but see above <non-subtle plug>(IBM's 
Developerworks is great source of info :)</non-subtle plug>

jeff


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