Actually, it makes perfect sense from the perspective of the Linux
community. No one single entity writes all of the code. If you're very
good at one thing, you may take it upon yourself to write code for that
one thing. NASA (or some of its employees anyway) has written pieces of
the Linux networking code. IBM has contributed code to Linux. Hell, even
Sun has made intellectual contributions to the community. The NSA is
particularly well-suited to security, so they wrote some code to make
Linux more secure. This is the way it should work. This is a sign that
the open source paradigm is taking hold the way we all hoped it would.
I hope this trend continues.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
> You may claim to not be trolling, and a comparison to the sendmail
> flamewar is all well and good... but this list is about Linux, which
> makes sendmail vs. <MTA> a viable topic, but trolling about BSD... not.
> And your comments are especially wrong when you don't, obviously,
> understand what SE Linux does; there's a *very* good article at IBM
> DeveloperWorks that discusses it. I suggest you read it before making any
> more off-the-cuff, uninformed, anti-government-'cause-it's-cool-to-be-that-way
> comments:
>
>http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/s-selinux/?dwzone=security?open&l=252,t=gr,p=selnx
>
> -Ken
>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:
>
> > At 08:42 AM 3/15/2001, Rich Payne wrote
> >
> > I"m not trying to start a flame war - I'm wondering why they chose to try
> > to harden something that can't be hardened :-)
> >
> > <DISCLAIMER>
> > I'm not trying to start a flame - we all have our favorites and opinions -
> > I am just expressing mine. so chill out - nobody said that sendmail was
> > bad and qmail was good (not in this email anyway)
> > </DISCLAIMER>
> >
> > Its like sendmail - sure sendmail is great if you like to upgrade to the
> > newest version every five min. (read the above disclaimer)
> >
> > I'm really wondering what the hell their thinking with wu-FTP? is there
> > something that i'm missing? they call it UNTESTED!?!? look at
> > securityfocus.com and search for wu-ftp. the results could choke a
> > horse!!! more sites have been owned using wu-FTP than my sister! :-)
> >
> > thats it i'm done
> >
> > ~kurth
> >
> > >On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anyone seen this? What a joke!
> > >
> > >So you've downloaded it, done a security audit on it and cracked/found
> > >problems with ?
> > >
> > > > Well for the Government i suppose that
> > > > this is the best that they can do with 1.2 billion-trillion tax
> > > dollars. I
> > > > mean if you want something secure use OpenBSD or MacOS!!!!!! anyway -
> > > check
> > > > it out
> > >
> > >If you want to start an OS flame war go elsewhere, USENET is usually a
> > >good place for that.
> > >
> > > > http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/download.html
> > > >
> > > > I like their use of wu-FTP as their "secure ftp server. :-)
> > >
> > >Notice how it says (Untested) after that, and again, until you've looked
> > >at the code and found problems I don't think you have much ground to stand
> > >on.
> > >
> > >Kindly save your arrogant flame baits for another list, I for one don't
> > >have time for it.
> > >
> > >--rdp
> > >
> > > > ~kurth
> > > >
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