You may claim to not be trolling, and a comparison to the sendmail
flamewar is all well and good... but this list is about Linux, which
makes sendmail vs. <MTA> a viable topic, but trolling about BSD... not.
And your comments are especially wrong when you don't, obviously,
understand what SE Linux does; there's a *very* good article at IBM
DeveloperWorks that discusses it. I suggest you read it before making any
more off-the-cuff, uninformed, anti-government-'cause-it's-cool-to-be-that-way
comments:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/s-selinux/?dwzone=security?open&l=252,t=gr,p=selnx
-Ken
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:
> At 08:42 AM 3/15/2001, Rich Payne wrote
>
> I"m not trying to start a flame war - I'm wondering why they chose to try
> to harden something that can't be hardened :-)
>
> <DISCLAIMER>
> I'm not trying to start a flame - we all have our favorites and opinions -
> I am just expressing mine. so chill out - nobody said that sendmail was
> bad and qmail was good (not in this email anyway)
> </DISCLAIMER>
>
> Its like sendmail - sure sendmail is great if you like to upgrade to the
> newest version every five min. (read the above disclaimer)
>
> I'm really wondering what the hell their thinking with wu-FTP? is there
> something that i'm missing? they call it UNTESTED!?!? look at
> securityfocus.com and search for wu-ftp. the results could choke a
> horse!!! more sites have been owned using wu-FTP than my sister! :-)
>
> thats it i'm done
>
> ~kurth
>
> >On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone seen this? What a joke!
> >
> >So you've downloaded it, done a security audit on it and cracked/found
> >problems with ?
> >
> > > Well for the Government i suppose that
> > > this is the best that they can do with 1.2 billion-trillion tax
> > dollars. I
> > > mean if you want something secure use OpenBSD or MacOS!!!!!! anyway -
> > check
> > > it out
> >
> >If you want to start an OS flame war go elsewhere, USENET is usually a
> >good place for that.
> >
> > > http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/download.html
> > >
> > > I like their use of wu-FTP as their "secure ftp server. :-)
> >
> >Notice how it says (Untested) after that, and again, until you've looked
> >at the code and found problems I don't think you have much ground to stand
> >on.
> >
> >Kindly save your arrogant flame baits for another list, I for one don't
> >have time for it.
> >
> >--rdp
> >
> > > ~kurth
> > >
> > >
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