On Wednesday 27 March 2002 08:18, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
> "Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > So, in trolling the various sources of job listings, it looks to me
> > like one of the hottest skills in demand is Java development.  I was
> > wondering if anyone can recommend GOOD sources of information about
> > learning Java.  Free ones (like web sites) are preferable, but not
> > necessarily required.  :)
>
> Well, I would have thought that C/C++ skills would be a little more
> desirable (this is my take), but if you want Java resources, I
> recommend these:

I thought so too and started to leanr C++ (I am a C coder by trade) but it 
started to look like Java was the way to go (if getting work is your first 
priority) si I switched to learning Java.  If writing OO software was the 
first goal I would have stayed with C++.


>
>
> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/
>
> _Concurrent Programing in Java_, Doug Lea
>
> You'll probably want to look into Swing, but I can't recommend a good
> book.
>
> O'Reilly's books are all useful, especially their _Java in a Nutshell_
> book.
>
>
>
> But if you want to learn Java, then I highly recommend that you become
> familiar with object-oriented design.  I'm not suggesting that you go
> crazy with learning UML or anything, but knowing (for example) what
> inheritance is and how to apply it is an invaluable skill (and one
> that is useful for working with *any* object-oriented language).
>
>
> You didn't ask for it, but I *highly* recommend _The Practice of
> Programming_ by Kernighan and Pike as well.
>
> > I also wonder if someone can explain to me how one becomes an
> > experienced programmer when employers all want someone who has 7+
> > years of experience...  <sigh>
>
> That's an unfortunate catch-22, you're right.  But imagine everybody's
> frustration back in 1995 or so when ads seeking "programmers with 7+
> years of Java programming experience" were commonplace... (-:
>
> Regards,
>
> --kevin

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