On 9 Jul 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
> I don't think that Counterpane does this sort of work. They specialize
> in managed security. SANS, I know, does not do this. SANS is an
> educational and reaserch organization. They may be able to point you in
> the right direction. 

Counterpane definitely used to - I personally used them once.  I thought I
remembered Bruce Schneier mentioning it at Black Hat, too.  I thought SANS
did, too... but yeah, could be wrong there.

And that other one was Belanos.... I had completely forgotten about 
@stake... I've heard good things there.

-- 

Vicious as a tigeress can be, she never eats her own cubs. 



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