John: I just deleted another post on this topic from you, and then I relized I had a thought to share ...
If I remember what you wrote correctly, apps are launching, but Orca doesn't appear to be getting the news. That really sounds like an issue with the AT-SPI bridge. Was that recently updated? Also, could you perhaps use lsof to chase down this problem? John Covici writes: > I have such a thing, but its just a directory, but maybe I could sort > on the time -- I will check. > > On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 19:45:42 -0400, > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > Do you have a log of what was updated in cronological order? Working > > backwards might be one way to go. > > > > > > John Covici writes: > > > Down version of what? Gnome has many items, I can't just say go to > > > earlier version of gnome. Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 15:24:49 -0400, > > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > e.g. downversion > > > > > > > > John Covici writes: > > > > > Unrolling what exactly? If its not window manager what might it be? > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:06:56 -0400, > > > > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand the attraction of gentoo. Why not get a custom build, > > > > > > with > > > > > > just the apps you want, and no more? Sounds cool--until important > > > > > > things > > > > > > break, at which point you're left with both pieces. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I have no gentoo specific understanding to offer. I can > > > > > > suggest some of the ordinary approaches available on other distros, > > > > > > such > > > > > > as unrolling to earlier versions until things again work. Yes, that > > > > > > can > > > > > > be very tedious, but isn't that part of the gentoo bargain? > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe there are other gentoo users here who can validate your > > > > > > experience, or indicate their current success. But, gentoo users > > > > > > are so > > > > > > few and far between because of the high upfront cost of running > > > > > > gentoo. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I'm being a bummer, John. But, I feel I've known you via > > > > > > these > > > > > > lists for long enough, that I'm willing to endure your ire. So, > > > > > > what is > > > > > > gentoo's recommended strategy for such situations? After all, > > > > > > breakage > > > > > > is surely inevitable in any human enterprise, including Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > John Covici writes: > > > > > > > Hi. I am using the gentoo distribution and its gnome overlay and > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the last period (maybe a month or two) I find that no apps are > > > > > > > accessible using the orca screen reader. The apps actually run as > > > > > > > verified with eyeballs, but orca does not see them. I am running > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > latest accessibility framework from git as of about 4 days ago. > > > > > > > Apparently, orca is not receiving the window activate event and > > > > > > > it was > > > > > > > suggested to me that it might be the window manager. I am using > > > > > > > mutter 3.20.3, downgraded to 3.20.2, but no joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The > > > > > > > question is: > > > > > > > How do > > > > > > > you spend it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Covici > > > > > > > cov...@ccs.covici.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > > > > > > > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > > > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > > > > > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > > > > > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > > > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > > > > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative > > > > > > (WAI) > > > > > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > > > > How do > > > > > you spend it? > > > > > > > > > > John Covici > > > > > cov...@ccs.covici.com > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > > > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > > > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > > > > http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > > > How do > > > you spend it? > > > > > > John Covici > > > cov...@ccs.covici.com > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > > sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net > > Email: jan...@rednote.net > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > cov...@ccs.covici.com -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:jan...@asterisk.rednote.net Email: jan...@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
