Hi, A lot of good ideas a pouring in. Good looks, bling, and down right handy services/features are needed for the shell to be successful. In my game it's not about the technology, it's about what the technology can do for the audience, but doing it in the best way possible.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 26 September 2009 10:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 13 Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Conceptual ideas for Gnome Shell (Reiner Jung) 2. Adding and removing workspaces (Mark Curtis) 3. Slight rearrangment of space in overlay (Mark Curtis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:36:23 +0200 From: Reiner Jung <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Conceptual ideas for Gnome Shell Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, I had recently the time to test the new gnome-shell on my karmic koala. First I have to say, it looks nice and has some nice features. And I know it is not feature complete right now. But still I have two ideas how the experience could be improved. 1. While in the old panel style desktop, users have to click on "Applications", a "Category" and then the application to start an application, this changes in the gnome-shell to one additional click on "Activity". So you need to perform 4 instead of 3 clicks. This is unfortunate, but not a real big issue, because people do not start so many applications. However, I found one irritating thing in the process. Right now gnome-shell displays (when "Activity" is clicked) a side bar, with some shortcuts for applications below the title applications. And a small browse button right of that title. When a user activates this side bar, she/he automatically clicks on the word application, but nothing happens, because you have to click "browse". I would encourage you to make the whole title of this section click-able, so when someone clicks on the title the application menu opens. 2. In Gnome 2.26 the desktop is provides several workspaces which is a good concept. It is used by many people in the following way. The first workspace is used for communication applications like mail, chat, micro-blogging. The second is used for surfing. And the last for multimedia applications (e.g. music). In between the workspaces are used for the daily work. The old workspace model does not really support this way to work. However, gnome-shell is designed with the idea to support activity based workspace usage. To improve this, gnome-shell should not be too concentrated on applications, but on activities. First it should be able to show different shortcuts below the "Application" title in the side bar. So applications for communication are shown when the first workspace is selected. This feature would require some good defaults, but it should also allow easy reconfiguration (especially for the work related workspaces), because this is highly user dependent. Also certain application are used in different contexts. For example: on one screen the browser is used as a surf tool, while on another workspace it is used as head for a web-based desktop application. And finally when you work on certain tasks you use several different applications. Example: you work on a web-application project, then you use let say Netbeans on one workspace and on another you have firefox running to show the pages produced by the web-application. It would be great if for such tasks workspace groups could be created, which automatically start the associated applications. If anybody is interested I could draw some "screenshots" to illustrate the ideas. Greetz Reiner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:33:38 -0400 From: Mark Curtis <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Adding and removing workspaces Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I believe this has been brought up before, but I have a minor issue with specifically removing workspaces. The + sign always stays in the lower right, yet the - is on whatever is the last workspace. Click rapidly on the +, without having to move the mouse, to add many, many workspaces. Now remove them. The mouse must move up, up, up.... left left left... up up etc. For consistancy's sake why not have the - to the left of the + ? It doesn't make sense to constantly move it around since you are unable to choose a specific workspace to delete. Also, often times I would try to click the - to delete it, but accidental click on the workspace itself. So again, put the - next to the + and have the workspace highlight when the mouse is over the - to inform the user which workspace would be deleted. _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=T EXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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