User333 wrote:

> It would be nice to always have the buttons in the same place... but will
> that cause major problems with older programs?


Not really. GlobalMenu already implements this kind of functionality in
GNOME 2.x and it works very well with every program I have used. As I
mentioned though, there are issues with Java apps, so the menu bar in
Firefox or OpenOffice.org doesn't get removed from the app window with
GlobalMenu. It's not impossible to get the menu bar removed from the Java
app, for example, when using Firefox on Mac, the menu bar is in the panel,
but I'm not sure how that is accomplished.

User333 wrote:

> What about if everything on the panel slid over to the left/(to keep the
> activities corner in place) /but was still visible (just jammed together) to
> make room for the menu bar on the right? Then you can still log out, access
> the overview, and see the time, and of course still see the menu.


That is another option, although it may make things look messy. That's why
with (C), I would suggest we start with just the app title+clock part of the
panel disappearing to make room, which leaves the sys tray, logout,
and Activities in their place (makes it more visually pleasing)
and accessible (for whatever reason). The accessibility part isn't that big
of a deal, as the menu bar will only be visible until it loses focus, but
keeping as much stuff in the same place makes things look nicer and is
easier on the user IMO.
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