should I take that as discrimination? English is not my first language.....
same as alot of people on the mailing list....But I write well enough for
people to understand... if I am not 100% correct in my punctuation/spelling
etc..... big deal.... why are we picking on peoples punctuation rather
than trying to resolve the design situation in gnome-shell that many people
are not happy with?
you know what.... bugger it.... i've had enough........
i'm moving on away from this dying project....
goodluck
unsubscribed
On , Johannes Schmid <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!
Please, stick to the GNOME Code of Conduct[1] when writing posts to
GNOME mailing lists.
Second, it is a matter of being polite to use correct language and
punctuation when writing stuff that others are supposed to read. We are
not a club of script kiddies...
Regards,
Johannes
[1] http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct
Am Donnerstag, den 20.05.2010, 16:10 +0000 schrieb [email protected]:
> quote
> Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full sentences
> > starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I
> don't
> > even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks.
>
>
> This is not language school... Nor a correct punctuation
> contest....Don't tell me how I should write my emails...
> I assume you can read and understand english so just deal with it
>
> As for your comments about us complaining about the current useability
> of gnome-shell.. I consider it
> constructive criticism... coming from the perspective of an everyday
> user...... if Gnome devs will not listen to the average user....
> then what? I guess gnome goes down the tube.............. dot dot dot
> dot dot...................
>
> I have no programming experience as alot of us do not..... But I can
> surely tell you if something sucks from the perspective of an everyday
> user needing to get his job done quickly and efficiently.... and to be
> frank... the current statuse of gnome-shell just plain sucks...
> nothing to be offended about... its the truth, and something needs to
> be done to fix the gaps.... Mostly the responsibility of the devs
> working on gnome-shell after listening
> to feedback from the users and considering contributions that make
> things easier.... like I said... I am not a programmer, but I have
> sent design submissions that are more well organised
> "design/usability" wise then the current state of gnome-shell....
> listen to the users
>
> kaddy
> On , Tim Ryan [email protected]> wrote:
> > I work with a group of IT folks and most of us are using Gnome on
> >
> > Ubuntu as out main desktop. None of the others have been following
> >
> > gnome-shell development or this list. I did a bit a research among
> our
> >
> > small group, only seven people, to see how IT people use their
> >
> > desktop, and gnome in particular. I mainly asked them about the
> window
> >
> > switcher on the panel, and asked how they were using it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I personally don't like the current version of gnome-shell, since it
> >
> > takes away too much functionality, and I don't see any way to use
> the
> >
> > window switcher the way most of us use it. The window switcher
> applet
> >
> > does not only provide a way of switching between running
> applications,
> >
> > it also give you a instant view of the status of all the running
> >
> > applications. You don't have to stop what you are doing, they are
> all
> >
> > there at a quick glance, all the time. I constantly have multiple
> >
> > windows up, and a quick glance at the panel lets me know what I
> need.
> >
> > Are there unread emails? Has compilation finished? video finally
> >
> > loaded? To find this out with the shell, I need to stop what I'm
> doing
> >
> > and go to the overlay, a definite distraction.
> >
> >
> >
> > I thought maybe I was unusual for using it this way, but three out
> of
> >
> > the seven use it this way. I know this isn't much of a sample, but
> if
> >
> > my little group wants this functionality I'm sure there are many
> more
> >
> > out there that feel the same.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim Ryan
> >
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> >
> > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Le jeudi 20 mai 2010 à 14:33 +0000, [email protected] a écrit :
> >
> > >> I am very glad that you are satisfied with the current "non
> finished"
> >
> > >> version of gnomeshell and how it handles window management..
> >
> > >> unfortunately there are alot of other people out here who find
> the
> >
> > >> current handling of windows bothersome, and not
> straightforward....
> >
> > >> its a hell of alot easier and
> >
> > >> quicker to click a minimised application to bring it back up
> rather
> >
> > >> than zooming out and zooming in on the app, or alt tabbing...
> while
> >
> > >> this may satisfy YOU.... it doesn't satisfy
> >
> > >> alot of other users.... hence an additional modification to
> >
> > >> gnome-shell to make life easier for the "others" such as a panel
> dock,
> >
> > >> or the ability to click on the minimised app in the panel can
> only
> >
> > >> be a good thing.... therefore people who are happy to alt
> tab/zoom
> >
> > >> in/out are satisfied.... and those that want a quicker solution
> such
> >
> > >> as clicking on a dock/minimised app in the panel are also
> >
> > >> satisfied..... otherwise there is going to be people on one side
> or
> >
> > >> another who are not going to be happy..... I have proposed the
> Panel
> >
> > >> dock recently.... I don't see why it shouldn't be taken
> seriously....
> >
> > >> look at the forums, especially ubuntu forums with threads about
> >
> > >> gnome-shell.... most people do not like the way gnome-shell
> handles
> >
> > >> windows.... I for one will move to another DE if gnome-shell
> gnome 3
> >
> > >> is half baked and featureless... but I am putting my faith in the
> devs
> >
> > >> that they will implement a way to use gnome-shell easy and
> quickly
> >
> > >> with minimal fuss... The future will be interesting to see what
> >
> > >> happens...........
> >
> > > Please, rewrite this e-mail using correct punctuation, full
> sentences
> >
> > > starting with a capital and ending with one dot, not hundreds. I
> don't
> >
> > > even have the courage to read your message as-is. Thanks.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Only actual user testing will be able to decide whether people
> usually
> >
> > > feel good with the overview to switch apps, or whether they adapt
> >
> > > reasonably well after some time, being as happy as before.
> >
> > > See
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/UsabilityTesting/PhaseI
> >
> > >
> >
> > > That said, I'm concerned that we, advanced users, make a intensive
> use
> >
> > > of Alt+Tab currently, effectively often avoiding the overview.
> People
> >
> > > that don't use the keyboard by lack of knowledge of shortcuts
> might
> >
> > > encounter difficulties we don't have. If we feel Alt+Tab is
> needed, then
> >
> > > accessing it's features with the mouse might be required too.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Instead of complaining, I'd like somebody who really feels the
> need for
> >
> > > a dock-like feature to actually step in and provide an extension
> for it.
> >
> > > The Shell is written in Java Script, you could add a way to
> activate
> >
> > > Alt+Tab with the mouse in a few lines.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Regards
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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