I agree with Kao Chen. I really like his mock-ups. Implementing all kind of applets is very powerful because of the flexibility it creates. If you don't like a certain applets, don't use it. If you do: you can add it. This way everybody will be happy.
Jeroen ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 2:00:31 PM Subject: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 8 Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 (Marty Goetting) 2. All in applets (Kao Chen) 3. Re: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up (Giovanni Campagna) 4. RE: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 (Shane.Nuessler) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:03:50 -0500 From: Marty Goetting <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up (Jeroen Verhoeckx) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeroen Verhoeckx <[email protected]> > To: Gnome Shell List <[email protected]> > Subject: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Gnome Shell developers and users, > > I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive > one. However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people don't > like the idea or > are there just very few people on this mailing list? > > Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) ! > > The differences with the former > mock-up is: > * Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is > something that users shouldn't need to use often. > > If you want, > you easily simulate > the Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface: > * Move the > Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly > as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!) > * Open Google Chrome > > The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the > screen is that you can work much more > efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to get > where you want. But > the most important advantage is that the > applications are always in > view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to zoom out just to see > what is open or closed. > > I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-). > > Yours sincerely, > > Jeroen > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 90655 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/attachments/20100608/447ac3bc/attachment.jpg > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > > End of gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 > *********************************************** > Isn't this essentially copying the Chrome interface? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/attachments/20100608/37725317/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:31:18 +0200 From: Kao Chen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: All in applets Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I have draw, some new mockups of my Gnome-Shell vision. I have done them in a short time, so it's more for explain my goals than build a marvelous design mockup. I'm sure that you already know that many of us don't like the dashbar and its heavy zoom-in/zoom-out animation. I also disagree the static activity menu bar. I prefer small animations and overlay menus or applets, like in our gnome 2.30. Moving the background images is too much for my stomach. So I suggest a return to the basic of the Gnome success: The Applet. One of the most powerfull things in gnome is applet: -You can add, suppress, move all the the applet you want in the order you want. - If you don't use one, you can make it disappear. I you want to add a specific, in the top left corner, you can. With Gnome 2.30 you can display and manage all the tools you want in the way what you want. You can never force a user to display a menu unnecessary for him. So, mockups are here ( it's heavy files): The panel with some applet, like "Applications" "Documents" "Contacts" .... http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qb/ If you don't want one of them, no problem it's an applet, just drop it. You want to see all the current workspace click, in the left corner, on the beautiful Gnome icons (it's an applet too). We can imagine a simply animation like in MacOS withF11/F12 We don't resize the background image. http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qc/ All the application stay in background, you can open an menu and work as usual. http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qd/ Or without the workspace view, the access to this menu is faster, so you can use it like a task bar. http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qe/ An applet for the documents and device: http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qf/ Inspiring from the sezen application: http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/06/concepts-for-a-new-open-file-dialog-and-search-dialog-using-zeitgeist/ If you want, an applet for your bookmarks: http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qg/ We are in an Internet world now. An applet to manage your contacts and have a quick access to them. http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Qh/ A complete implementation of the clock: http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Rd/ And all the specific stuff you want http://ubuntuone.com/p/6Rn/ Gnome is powerfull because it can adapt to all the strange desire. Don't fix menus and applets to a corner or whatever. Free the menus!!! Regards Kao -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/attachments/20100608/823720c1/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:05:54 +0200 From: Giovanni Campagna <[email protected]> To: Jeroen Verhoeckx <[email protected]> Cc: Gnome Shell List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It's not that it's not a good idea, it's just not what Gnome Shell is trying to achieve (focusing on documents + tasks/activities, rather than applications), as I see it. Nevertheless, you could try implementing it as an extension, given some expected work to make the panel extensible and to add an useful API for extension developers. Giovanni On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Jeroen Verhoeckx <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Gnome Shell developers and users, > > I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive one. > However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people don't like > the idea or > are there just very few people on this mailing list? > > Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) ! > > The differences with the former > mock-up is: > * Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is > something that users shouldn't need to use often. > > If you want, > you easily simulate > the Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface: > * Move the > Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly > as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!) > * Open Google Chrome > > The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the > screen is that you can work much more > efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to get > where you want. But > the most important advantage is that the > applications are always in > view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to zoom out just to see what > is open or closed. > > I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-). > > Yours sincerely, > > Jeroen > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:00:53 +1000 From: "Shane.Nuessler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 Message-ID: <63f017fc9b34084f8d216e83f9e0184d0d42b...@amsterdam.ucstaff.win.canberra.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tabs are a not a bad way to go, I see Thunderbird email client starting to use tabs rather than pop up a lot of windows. Personally I prefer the app to "contain itself". -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2010 3:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7 Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up (Jeroen Verhoeckx) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:43:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeroen Verhoeckx <[email protected]> To: Gnome Shell List <[email protected]> Subject: Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface new mock-up Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Gnome Shell developers and users, I just got one respond on my last email. I'm glad that it was a positive one. However I'm wondering why I didn't get more. Is it because people don't like the idea or are there just very few people on this mailing list? Nonetheless I made a new mock-up ;-) ! The differences with the former mock-up is: * Moved the 'add app' button to the right because this is something that users shouldn't need to use often. If you want, you easily simulate the Gnome Shell Tabbed Interface: * Move the Window list to the top panel (off course this doesn't work exactly as the 'Application menu' in Gnome Shell!!) * Open Google Chrome The advantage of having the applications and the tabs at the top of the screen is that you can work much more efficiently. You just need to move the mouse just a few centimetres to get where you want. But the most important advantage is that the applications are always in view of the user and that he or she doesn't have to zoom out just to see what is open or closed. I'm hoping on a little more feedback his time ;-). Yours sincerely, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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