Hey, On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Sandy Armstrong <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, William Jon McCann > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey Sandy, >> >> (I'm out of town and short on time today but wanted to reply quickly) >> >> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Sandy Armstrong >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I have a few questions regarding Tomboy in gnome-shell 3.0: >>> >>> 1) Will there still be a regular old notification area available, so >>> that Tomboy can run in the tray as it always has? (obviously running >>> in the tray is evil, blah blah blah, let's not get into that right >>> now) >> >> Not really... We should be porting applications away from it as soon >> as possible. I was going to make a separate announcement about it >> once I got a few more things done but since you brought it up :) > > Okay, that's really fine, thanks for clearing it up. > >> As you know, in GNOME 2, we had a mix of system components and >> application notification in the notification area. In GNOME 3, we're >> providing a separate and exclusive place for the system status items. >> And we've designed a new way to provide notifications to the user that >> aims to puts the user in charge of the balance between disruption and >> information - the Message Tray >> [http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray]. >> >> Core system components that use the notification area should be ported >> to be shell provided system status items. Applications that use >> notification area status icons should be now be ported to use the >> Message Tray. I've started to put together a porting guide, and it >> isn't complete: >> >> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Compatibility > > Cool, I'll check this stuff out. > >>> 2) Are there any new or upcoming features in gnome-shell 3.0 that >>> would allow Tomboy to reimplement its note menu directly in the shell >>> (something like right-clicking the app icon), so that the notification >>> area icon would no longer be necessary? >> >> We have some plans for adding jumplist-like functionality, at some >> point, so that applications can supplement the drop down menu >> available on App Icon launchers. Actually weren't you looking into >> adding that? But basically, if no one wants it enough to write it I >> doubt it will get done. > > Yeah, I proposed something, didn't see much feedback, got distracted. > Looks like this cycle might be a good time to pick it back up. > > I don't expect you guys to do all the work here; I am just not > up-to-date on shell news and wanted to make sure I knew what the > current status of this sort of thing was. > >> But we really want to not use the status icon in any case. > > Yeah, it is gross. > >> You didn't ask but we probably want to have a way to search through >> notes directly from the search box of the shell. But again someone >> needs to write it. > > Sure sure. > >>> 3) Will gnome-shell 3.0 support extensions that modify the shell UI in >>> arbitrary ways? >> >> Not in a way that an application should expect to be able to use. >> Extensions are not APIs. > > Right, and that makes sense. I was just curious. :-) > >> Basically, Tomboy or any notes app is an app and should behave >> consistent with other applications. Hope that helps a little. Let me >> know where you think we need more clarification. > > I think that's very clear, thanks. I don't think Tomboy is "special" > or should be treated as such. I do, however, think that the note menu > provided by the tray/applet is something I don't want to lose. In > fact, I think it's useful outside of the context of Tomboy, too, hence > my interest in more general jumplist support. > > So it sounds like the answer is that if I want something like the > Tomboy note menu, that is a menu that is available without explicitly > switching to Tomboy, with pinning capability, I need to get kicking on > some patches and specs for jumplists in gnome-shell.
This would be a great topic for a session at Boston Summit actually. Will you be there? Thanks man, Jon _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
