Hi! On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 21:00 +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: > Just wanted to follow up on a story of minimized windows in gnome-shell > (tried 2.31.5-7.fc14 from Fedora).
Quick side note: those packages are very outdated (not due to laziness, but because it would require to replace stable system components with unstable versions). Building from source is *highly* recommended, and not too hard if you follow the instructions on http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#Building. > Is there going to be a place on the > screen (not on the preview screen) where minimized windows go? As a > user, I was completely confused with the minimized windows disappearing > from the screen altogether, without any obvious way to get them back. You probably won't like the designers' answer to that one - the current plan is to remove all buttons but the close button from the title bar by default. Windows can now be maximized by dragging the window to the top monitor edge, but the minimize action does not have a replacement (yet? The keyboard shortcut will still be supported though). Maybe there will be another answer to "get that out of my way now, but let me get back to it later" at some point ... > Also, I read in the cheat sheet that: > > "The panel has the Activities button for switching to the overview, the > name of the focused application (which will provide the application menu > in the future), the current date, the notification icons, and the button > with the user name that activates the user menu." > > Are you guys seriously considering moving application menu up the top, > Mac style? I certainly hope not. This would be such a backward step. > Please tell me it isn't so... :-( Not so :-) The application menu is a single popup menu and should contain only actions affecting the application as a whole - for instance preferences and help are good candidates, copy and paste are not. The menu can also provide jumplist-like behavior, e.g. Firefox could push a list of open tabs into the menu. At least in the 3.0 time frame, windows' menu bars are not affected. At a later point, actions available from the application menu may be removed from the window's menu bar to avoid duplication - some applications which don't have window specific menus could drop their menu bar at that point, but there is no intention to move window-specific menu items outside the window they belong to. Standard actions like save, print or the entire edit menus should(*) never be moved out of a "classic" menu bar inside the window. Hope I could clear things up a little (and that you don't dislike the answers completely ...) Florian (*) "should" because ultimately it's up to application authors to push actions to the application menu - the design is very clear on this though: those options MUST NOT be moved to the app menu. _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
