----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasper St. Pierre" <[email protected]> 
To: "Allan E. Registos" <[email protected]> 
Cc: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:27:02 PM 
Subject: Re: [email protected] 

>>>If the kernel doesn't tell us that we support standby, we don't show it. 
>>>You can check if your computer supports suspend pretty much the same 
>>>way we do (for Linux, not FreeBSD): 
>>> pm-is-supported --suspend && echo "Suspend is supported" || echo 
>>>"Suspend is not supported" 
>> I tried, it says: " suspend is not supported " and fire up GNOME Shell for 
>> testing(this build is less than a week old) even though this build will 
>> crash the whole system if I am going to press CTRL-C at the terminal where I 
>> started GS, and lo and behold it still shows the "Suspend" button. 

>This is a bug. Can you try one more thing? Give me the exact output of: 

>dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower 
>/org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get 
>string:org.freedesktop.UPower string:CanSuspend 


You mean this whole line? 
dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower 
/org/freedesktop/UPower 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Getstring:org.freedesktop.UPower 
string:CanSuspend 


Result: 

process 12110: arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, 
assertion "interface == NULL || _dbus_check_is_valid_interface (interface)" 
failed in file dbus-message.c line 1204. 
This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. 
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace 
Aborted (core dumped) 


>> If the 
>> design guys are serious about ripping off the Switch Off button from GNOME 
>> Shell then I would suggest that they will do it _right_ the first time. And 
>> this whole thing the removing of Power Off function for the sake of "It's by 
>> Design" principle, doesn't nullify my argument earlier that every machine(at 
>> least most machines invented by man), when it uses "electrical power" must 
>> have a switch off functionality (where electrical energy is considered a 
>> fire hazard). Even Critical Machines here(we're in a manufacturing business) 
>> needs to be turned off properly and slowly but still have an emergency OFF 
>> button. 

>As I understand it, it will be a "Suspend/Hibernate" hybrid. That is, 
>we go into suspend for a bit, and then go to hibernate after more time 
>has passed. 
Hibernate is fine. Then get the Power off feature available since it is an 
obvious needed feature and not optional for some(I think most) users. I wonder 
what is the rationale behind this, where they can just only add the 
Suspend/Whatever buttons in addition to Power Off and Restart. Simple. 


>>>If you're having trouble with suspending for any reason, and that says 
>>>suspend is supported, tell us and file a bug. 
>> No Power Off function in GNOME Shell(regardless of pm-is-supported), that 
>> for sure, is a bug in itself. 

>There is an option: hold down Alt. 


The simplest thing to do is just to make it visible without any 
combination-keys. 


>> Kind Regards, 
>> Allan 
>> 
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