It is worthy to note that only GNOME Shell have this _[] removals by default, I can't see it elsewhere in any major OSes. So a "Welcome to GNOME Shell < New Features > < Tour Guide >" startup window with a simple documentation will help users from other environments. I believe this could be also done by distributions or by GNOME Shell doc team itself. Configuring the dconf just to show it back again is relevant only to the maintainers of Linux/*nix distributions, but I think it is of little value to _end_ users.

On Tuesday, 15 March, 2011 11:35 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Marshall Neill <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 03/14/2011 10:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:

        On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:46 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote:

            Hey,

            On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Florian
            Müllner<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
             wrote:

                On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 14:00 +0000, [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

                    2) Don't you guys surf the net for porn!!!!????
                    C'monnnn. Do you know
                    how hard it is now to hide a webpage quickly when
                    somebody walks into
                    the room!!!!???? Don't deny it. You guys watch
                    porn too ;)
                    now you ruined everything. haha :)

                Uhm - so basically you post to a public mailing list
                that you'd like to
                keep your porn-browsing habits private?

            Well at least he or she didn't describe the type of porn.

            Sounds like a good case for a porn workspace.  When
            someone walks up
            behind you at work, zip it up and switch workspaces.
             Another option
            is to use the keyboard shortcuts if that's where your
            hands are
            (doubtful).  You may even want to configure a special
            keybinding if
            getting caught in the act is a common part of your workflow.
            Otherwise you can use the overview to switch away.   Your
            porn-space
            is mostly hidden off the right side of the screen in the
            overview.

            But let's try to use work-safe examples here in the future
            please.

        Can't resist continuing this one. As we're talking about
        hiding porn
        'webpages' we are apparently in a web browser. If you're
        trying to keep
        your porn browsing private you probably want to be doing it in
        Private
        Browsing Mode, which - in Firefox, anyway - has a keyboard
        shortcut:
        shift-ctrl-P. It's even, very conveniently, a shortcut you can
        manage
        with one hand, if you use the right-hand side ctrl and shift
        keys. That
        makes it nice and easy to get rid of your porn session with no
        minimizing required - just whack the keyboard shortcut to quit
        private
        browsing mode and you're right back in your convincingly
        work-related
        browser session.

        I'M JUST SAYIN, IS ALL

        (of course, if you're on a work network, you can rely on the
        fact that
        your friendly office BOFH has your outgoing HTTP requests
        logged. Please
        refer to said BOFH for the fee schedule for keeping said logs
        private...)

    I have been watching this list for some time now and I have come
    to a conclusion, perhaps a bad one, but one nonetheless, you have
    taken away functionality.  The whole gnome shell thing is
    woirkspace driven.  As I said before, you guys might use
    workspaces, but from what I have seen in the years and years of
    dealing with computers, not used all that often.  Now if you use
    workspaces, great, but forcing others to adopt that mentality, not
    so sure.   No minimize, maximize, why?  You have just removed
    functionality and I believe minimize was removed because there
    isn't any taskbar.  Minimize caused the window to basically
    disappear and you couldn't find it.   Well if you pressed the
    Super key or moused over to the Activities you would find it.
     More work.  Taskbar, there is one, so to speak, but basically a
    space stealer.   Has a calendar, woohoo, and the activities plus
    system tray.   Boy that will cause everyone to drop KDE, XFCE,etc
    and just stampede over to the new Gnome Shell.  Yeah right.  Now I
    know I am gonna get nailed bigtime for this e-mail, but I feel it
    needed to be said.  All I have seen, for the mostpart, is praise.
     No real criticisms.
    I always thought the basic premise for an upgrade or new features
    was productivity.  I don't see a lot of that in the new shell.
     More mouse moving/clicking, etc.


The functionality is not being removed.. it's not just visible. You can still get to it via right click on the title bar or the keyboard shortcut. Why not try it that way instead of just bashing it? If you don't like it you can always set the key in dconf to put it back.

The thing about computers is that work models change constantly. How people interact with their computers change.. today a lot of people are using cell phones and the way they interact on that is in fact workspace based. The way they work with tablets is workspace based. I strongly suspect that the smart phone use models is going to affect the UI desktop computing. I see this as getting ahead of the curve. (or perhaps we've always been there.. I've been using workspaces since 1993)

Maybe you don't agree with the direction and that's understandable, change isn't always easy to manage especially if you're happy with the status quo. GNOME has always been about "just works" and pushing the desktop out of your consciousness so that you can concentrate on the tasks you're working on effectively. "Distraction free computing" as is described in the http://www.gnome3.org/ website. Perhaps this iteration may not the best for you, but please continue to monitor subsequent iterations and try them out. Keep an open mind is all we ask. Perhaps you'll appreciate some of the changes?

sri


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