I just tested the search function and it works fine for me! i use synapse and then type search...........wks fine :-)
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Searching for files (Jeff Sumner) > 2. Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell (Julien Olivier) > 3. Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell (Alessandro Crismani) > 4. Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell (Julien Olivier) > 5. Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell (David Prieto) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:47:56 -0400 > From: Jeff Sumner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Searching for files > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 20:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> Where is the global recent document list, please? Is it gone? > >>> I'm running Fedora 15. if there's anything specific to the > >>> implementation of which anyone's aware? > >> On F15 it works fine for me for recently used files. I don't believe a > >> more comprehensive file search is implemented yet - > > > > +1 Recent is working on openSUSE 11.3 GNOME3 install as well. Only bug > > I see is that it still shows files that have been deleted. > > > >> it's simply not been > >> written, though it's planned. But if I type part of the file name of a > >> text file I recently edited in gedit, it shows up. > > > > I use "Desktop Seach" which brings up the Tracker search application; > > this works *very* well. > > > > And I'm back to using the file manager to search- which too works. > > I was surprised that there was a "search" feature advertised for > Gnome-Shell that didn't actually... Well... "search" my documents. > > By the time I get my head around it, I'm sure it'll be there- or someone'll > write a plug-in. > > Now to figure out how to get printing to my home network printer! > > Thanks! > > J > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/attachments/20110620/bde696b0/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:13:09 +0200 > From: Julien Olivier <[email protected]> > To: David Prieto <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell > Message-ID: <1308575592.3581.39.camel@julien> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Email applications and instant messengers should only be a way for you > > to interact with your online presence, that is, you should only need > > them running to send an email or an IM, but not to "listen" to > > incoming emails or IMs. Once you have set your accounts, Gnome should > > start listening for those as soon as you start your PC and notify you > > as soon as any communications arrive, then only launch Evolution or > > Empathy if you actually want to open an interface in order to interact > > with them. > > > > This is here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651347 > > > As for music players, I love what Ubuntu did: they integrated > > Rhythmbox and Banshee into the sound menu, so that you can keep > > listening to your music without having to keep an open window. If you > > open Banshee and then close it while it's not playing, it will close > > as expected. If you open Banshee, press play and then close the > > window, your music will keep playing even though there is no window. > > You can skip songs or stop the music usin the sound menu. > > > > Yes, except that there is no "sound menu" in gnome-shell. > > > As for torrent apps and download managers, my opinion is that Gnome > > should have a progress indicator that hosts running operations waiting > > to complete: that is downloads, file operations, disc burning, and so > > on. > > > > I agree, but there is not such thing currently in gnome-shell. > > > I'm not trying to start a discussion about how convenient these would > > be: my point is only that, in all those situations you mentioned, > > there are alternative solutions to minimizing; it only looks like the > > obvious one because we've been minimizing windows forever, but that > > doesn't mean it's necessarily the best one. > > > > No, it sounds right because it is what currently EXISTS in gnome-shell. > The solutions you described before are perfect solutions to this > problem, but none of them currently exist in gnome shell. As a real > current user of gnome shell, I would love to see a solution based on > what's currently already implemented: minimization. When new solutions > are developed, then - and only then - can minimization be declared > obsolete. > > > > It adds complexity. Some people (take my mom as an example) just can't > > tell the difference between closing a window and minimizing it. When > > they accidentally minimize a window they don't know where it has gone, > > they don't know that now it's in the taskbar. They just don't get the > > concept of a taskbar. > > > > If they knew how to launch the application the first time, I guess the > natural reaction to the window disappearing will to try to re-launch it, > which will result in displaying it again. You don't have to understand > the difference between closing and minimizing when things are well > designed. > > > To get back to what they were doing, they will repeat the process they > > followed the first time: press the launcher, which will launch a brand > > new window of that application... without all the work they'd done. > > Wrong: if the window has been (accidently) minimized, clicking the > launcher icon will just present the "lost" window. See, it's already > working almost perfectly. > > > Other times they will spot the app icon on the taskbar and press it, > > which will take them back to the existing window, but they simply DO > > NOT understand why they sometimes get back their window, and they > > sometimes get a new one. > > > > Again, no need to understand it: it will work perfectly whether they > understand it or not. > > > This duplicity is, objectively, a problem for some people. I have seen > > it. Removing the minimize button solves the problem for them. I'm not > > saying helping them is worth bothering other users; I'm only saying > > that in some cases, having a minimize button DOES hurt some people. > > > > As I already said in another email, to avoid duplicity, just assign the > close button to "minimize" for applications that need it. Then, specify > it in the desktop file. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:22:40 +0100 > From: Alessandro Crismani <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Il giorno lun, 20/06/2011 alle 15.13 +0200, Julien Olivier ha scritto: > > As I already said in another email, to avoid duplicity, just assign > > the > > close button to "minimize" for applications that need it. Then, > > specify > > it in the desktop file. > > No please, I *never* want to minimize apps, specially if they decide > that in their smart way. IMO, changing the close button behaviour > depending on the application will introduce an inconsistency as big as > the whole galaxy, when I press the close button I *want* that window to > be closed and I *expect* that. > > It is a no thanks for me. > > Alessandro > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:26:54 +0200 > From: Julien Olivier <[email protected]> > To: Alessandro Crismani <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell > Message-ID: <1308576415.3581.42.camel@julien> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > No please, I *never* want to minimize apps, specially if they decide > > that in their smart way. IMO, changing the close button behaviour > > depending on the application will introduce an inconsistency as big as > > the whole galaxy, when I press the close button I *want* that window to > > be closed and I *expect* that. > > > > It is a no thanks for me. > > > > Just a note to say that, even if your point of view is perfectly valid, > there is at least one application that already does that currently: > epiphany, and many apps that do it optionally: rhythmbox, banshee, > transmission... So you can't say that this would introduce an > inconsistency: it would only make it "official". > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:31:19 -0400 > From: David Prieto <[email protected]> > To: Julien Olivier <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Julien, > > This is here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651347 > > > > > Yes, except that there is no "sound menu" in gnome-shell. > > > > > > I agree, but there is not such thing currently in gnome-shell. > > > > Obviously. We probably wouldn't be having this discussion if those were > implemented. > > > > The solutions you described before are perfect solutions to this > problem, > > but none of them currently exist in gnome shell. As a real current user > of > > gnome shell, I would love to see a solution based on > > what's currently already implemented: minimization. > > > Minimization does not exist in gnome shell, at least not as part of the new > workflow. It does exist as a vestigial trace of the old one, a sign of how > things used to work, but it has no place in the way things work now, and I > wouldn't be surprised if the ability to minimize totally disappears in 3.2, > even from the Alt+Space menu. > > > > When new solutions are developed, then - and only then - can minimization > > be declared obsolete. > > > > Quite the opposite. Exposing underlying problems is a vital step to solve > them. Giving prominence to minimization "until a real solution arrives" is, > IMO, sweeping the dirt under the carpet. And it's a great way to make sure > that a real solution never comes. > > > > If they knew how to launch the application the first time, I guess the > > natural reaction to the window disappearing will to try to re-launch it, > > which will result in displaying it again. > > > > That's the case with applications that only have one window, e.g. Totem. > Not > with applications that can have multiple windows, e.g. Firefox, for which a > new, empty window is created. > > > > As I already said in another email, to avoid duplicity, just assign the > > close button to "minimize" for applications that need it. Then, specify > it > > in the desktop file. > > > > And whose work would that be? Gnome developers? Distributions? 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