On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Florian Müllner <[email protected]> wrote: >> * I LOVE the fact that unity hides the title bar for maximized windows >> and I think gnome-shell should do something similar. > > It is something that designers are considering. There are still a lot of > open questions, but I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't > "merge" the titlebar with the top bar as Unity does (e.g. window > controls won't appear in the top bar), but rather hide it completely.
as the title bar already has only the close button (by default), I guess it makes sense. Yet having something change next to the application name would make sense, to make sure it doesn't feel like a bug and hint that the window can be unmaximized by dragging it back down. I'm sure the specific details would need some tweaking, just saying that I would like the general idea of hiding the title bar. >> * As the main focus was about the menu bar, I have to say that I like >> the unity behaviour for maximized windows, but I hate it for other >> wondows, having to make sure the right one is focussed and move to the >> top is cumbersome. > > I don't think we want to do that, except for "global" application > options which should appear in the application menu (the one with the > lonely "quit" action). In fact, there's the feeling that many > applications could do without a menu bar to begin with (obviously not > LibreOffice/Gimp, but pretty much anything "less complex")[0][1] +1, but we still have a lot of applications which waste vertical space with menu bar, so anything that can reduce this loss would be good for me. >> * merge the menu bar into the title bar: we get pretty much the same >> behaviour as unity for maximized windows, but something much more sane >> for other windows. > > This has the potential of reducing the draggable titlebar area to zero, > so I don't think it is a very compelling option :-) > However, if an application's menu "bar" is reduced to a single toolbar > button (similar to the menu buttons found in Firefox/Chromium), it might > indeed make sense to move it into the titlebar (ignoring for a moment > that it would be far from trivial to implement it). About the dragable area: one can ensure that we always have some space before and after the menu, and if too many menus are here, hide them beneath a "+" button. I think most of the underlying tech is here already: unity use a protocol through which the applications describes its menu. Then it is up to the shell to decide how to organize them. I'm not fond of the "all menus merged into a button" approach (except for google chrome which is brilliant): it feels harder to navigate for me. It is a good solution to overcome the lack of horizontal space but should only be used in this case. Of course I am also all for working inside applications to get smaller menus or no menus at all when it makes sense. Best regards. -- Aurélien Naldi _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
