Alan Mackenzie <[email protected]> hat am 12. November 2009 um 22:47 geschrieben:
> 'Evening, Gabriel! > > Gabriel Striewe <[email protected]> wrote: > > [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset: UTF-8, 38 lines --] > > > Hello all, > > > Python (if I am not right, I am sure there exist other examples of this > > case) as of now seems to still depend on Visual C being compiled on > > Windows and still causing problems being compiled with MinGW. > > Is that really true? Aren't there any free C compilers native to > Windows? Hasn't GCC been targeted at Windows native? Yes, GCC has been targeted at Windows natively, in the MinGW project. The Microsoft Visual C compiler is free of charge, but that is not in the sense of freedom endorsed by the gnu foundation. As for Python, there do exist a few patches to make it compile under Windows using MinGW, but this compilation process is not officially endorsed by the python guys. On www.python.org, you can get a python installer, but not the source to compile on Windows/MinGW. > > > Now, assuming that providing open source software on Windows doesn't > > give Windows an unfair advantage having all this good software > > available on it, but rather to the contrary, makes it easier?for > > Windows users making the transition to Linux, .... > > Which I believe would actually be the case. As well as making it easier > for free software programmers to hack Windows, thus making it more of a > free-for-all. > > > ...., since all the software they started using on Windows (open source > > software, of course) is available on Linux, too, doesn't this mean > > Python is not as free as it could be? > > Perhaps, in theory. If this particular lack of freedom were ever to bite > some day, I suspect it would be fixed in days rather than weeks. Could be that maybe I am too pessimistic about it. > > > What if one day Visual C in its license forbids using it to compile > > open source software? Is that completely impossible? > > I suspect it wouldn't happen in practice, even if it's possible in > theory. It would signify Microsoft waving the white flag of surrender. > Also, who'd buy a compiling system for several hundred euros, were it to > restrict the licensing of their own programs? > > > On the Gnu website there is a list of completely free linux > > distributions. Would this website be also a place for a list of > > software which > > > a) exists on Linux as well as Windows, making the transition to a good > > operating system possible > > That'd be a delicate suggestion, since it would, to some extent, be > advocating the use of proprietary software, or at least look a bit like > it. I did not put it in clear enough words: of course this list would only include free software. > > > b) can (on Windows) be compiled using a completely free toolchain (that > > is, MinGW) > > Can't all free software written in C be built with MinGW? > That's what I wish would one day be true. > > Any hints whether such a site / interest group already exists are > > greatly appreciated. > > I don't know of any. During the next days I am going to try to compile K3D under Windows using MinGW. If it's successful, I will set up a note on my website. > > > Thanks > > > Gabriel Striewe > > -- > Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). > > _______________________________________________ > gnu-misc-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss _______________________________________________ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
