On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 05:33:49PM +0100, Gabriel wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:44:40AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > > The point is that in order for people using windows to come over to > > use Linux it is necessary to provide this software on Windows as > > well, making the transition easier. Now this software should be > > able to be compiled using a 100% free software toolchain like > > MinGW, [...] > > > > MinGW requires Windows, so it is not 100% free software. When using a > > non-free software system, you can never have a 100% free tool-chain, > > since it requies non-free software to work. > > > > > > By they way, would you like to help the GNU project sort out the > > confusion that Linux is a operating system? The system you are > > calling `Linux' is one that we started writting more than 20 years, > > and we named it GNU. Linux is a important of many GNU variants, but > > it is not the name of the system. Please see > > http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html for more information. > > > > I completely agree with you that I should call the system GNU/Linux > and I am sorry not to have done so. And yes, the system I was talking > about and called Linux is the system you are talking about. > > About MinGW requiring Windows and not being free software: It is a way > to help people migrate from Windows to GNU. It surely is a compromise, > but it will help compile software which is also available on GNU, so > that if people start using open source software on Windows, they can > later on convert to GNU using the same software. > > A world WITHOUT Windows is still what I would still love to see during my > lifetime! > > Gabriel > > > _______________________________________________ > gnu-misc-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
The Gnu foundation itself says :"Using free software on Microsoft Windows (or any non-free operating system) is the first step towards freedom". That is what I mean. And you have got a list already like the one I am talking about on: http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html I am talking about such a list exactly, only extended by software which can be compiled WITHOUT Visual C! Greetings, Gabriel _______________________________________________ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
