* Alexandre François Garreau <galex-...@galex-713.eu> [2019-11-04 15:10]: > Le lundi 4 novembre 2019 15:05:02 CET, vous avez écrit : > > Myself I do not see any real problem in gender cap, as it is something > > one cannot really control. It indicates that society's type and its > > culture is generaly to blame for gendera gaps. Maybe there are > > sucessful actions to learn from Saudi Arabia where women in computing > > reserve whole 59% > > Really interesting indeed. Now is to know if the culture difference hints > the > good thing in the women personality, or in the work/education environment > that > surrounds them…
There is some disparity always, those are not issues of specific projects such as GNU. It just happen that Stallman have started it from USA. Of course that gender disparity or discrimination has historical reasons. Yet all those subjects are beyond GNU project, especially for reason that everybody is welcome. Instead of thinking theoretically, just do it practically, install free operating system to your female neighbor, and eat same cakes in exchange. As that is exactly what I did with one of my female landlords. It is so simple, just do something practically, for example, explain to your female friends about free software philosophy and let them bust their proprietary operating systems. In my business I do not know if we had more women or man, probably little bit more men, but we are about same. I don't choose people by their gender, I choose them by their dedication and skills. By their understanding of the subject in question and ability to apply it. > > There is disparity even though companies make campaigns to welcome > > everybody or establish policies against discrimination of any kind. > > Indeed, that shows it’s a difficult problem. I don't see it as difficult problem and it is not problem of a GNU project, and anybody who wish to help is welcome to invite new people to contribute to GNU. Here is your reference: https://www.gnu.org/help/help.en.html You may help by browsing through your contacts and inviting people to help GNU project. Translations are also good. > > [computer users group]? > > I’m unfortunately not a that social person. I can be good but ti takes too > much energy to keep going in the long run. I’ve known some groups on Paris, > loosely, and briefly, and some hackerspaces in both Paris and here in Brest, > that’s all. I don’t participate enough to see that (except I saw a > hackerspace in Paris, the Loop, divide and explodes for many political and > governances reasons among which gender issues). You said it, it is dividing people. It is good to simple be welcoming to everybody and promoting whatever causes a group has. If group has cause to help users then one shall not introduce other politics for the same reason that such would divide people apart. My side is that any friend I meet who requires help with computer would get from me a free installation of GNU operating system and free removal of the virus (Windows). Both women and men are using such computer in their house. I don't look into gender, it is not related, and both genders will use the computer. Please just think, would there be 300 men making a software project (not true, this is hypothetical, for those who understand only literall meanings), they are workers, making it also for their women, sisters, girlfriends, friends, daughters, mothers, grandmothers and female neighbors. Thus even if all are men, does it really matter? As in the end, the more males are using GNU free operating system, the more females will use it too, that is automatically. I am sure that every one GNU user who ever installed GNU system for a friend could easily teach female friends how to use the system. There is no specific problem of discrimination in GNU. Please get enlightenment by watching the statistics here: https://flowingdata.com/2017/09/11/most-female-and-male-occupations-since-1950/ The problem you are speaking about is fictional and so large that cannot be solved specifically, not by any type of French revolution and not by particular efforts. And if you wish to solve such problem, then please try solving it from the end, try solving why pipelayers, plumbers, pipefitters and steamfitters have such large gender gap. Try adressing automotive services, technicians, and mechanics to solve the problem. On the other hand try to get a job as a male childcare worker or preschool and kindergarten teacher and you will understand what I mean. Computing and software subjects are not in the danger zone of the gender gap. Try adressing construction laborers and companies and solving the issue there.
