Jean Louis writes: > * Jan Nieuwenhuizen <jann...@gnu.org> [2021-04-08 16:43]: >> Martin writes: >> >> > Maybe freedom in "free software" shouldn't require from the code to be >> > open neither. Let's just blindly trust some saint developers who >> > cannot even control their own binaries. Actually today we are closer >> > and closer to that sad scenario like never before in the history, >> > because in fact most of the open-source and GNU "free software" >> > nowadays base on blackboxed binary seeds that cannot be verified by >> > the users not even by the core developers. >> >> The bootstrappable project, GNU Mes and GNU Guix are working to fix that >> >> >> https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2020/guix-further-reduces-bootstrap-seed-to-25/ >> https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/gnumes/ > > Janneke, that is probably most important step for GNU and free > software in general.
Thanks, we believe so too. > I have read it, and researching, but yet do not get how to start. I > have downloaded stage0, is that the place to start? It's currently not very easy to do this all by hand. Easiest to see what's happening would be to use Guix: the bootstrap is fully "scripted" there by packages and their dependencies. If you look at: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/commencement.scm?h=wip-full-source-bootstrap you can see it all starts with 'bootstrap-seeds'. You can "build" that package (the seeds are just a download, of course) by (checking out the guix wip-full-source-bootstrap branch, building it) and, doing $ ./pre-inst-env guix build -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) bootstrap-seeds)' /gnu/store/sg0fxjd0pyfn5sm0m33227i3rz32l6z6-bootstrap-seeds-1.0.0 and you'll see the 357-byte hex0-seed in there. This is used to build the 'm2-planet-boot' package which uses kaem scripts (any shell will do) to build hex0, hex1, M0, M1, hex2 and m2-planet: $ ./pre-inst-env guix build -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) m2-planet-boot)' /gnu/store/qxsd6zg910zjgwsm13c39hys2g931ij8-m2-planet-boot-1.7.0-31-g358b6cf then onto mes-boot $ ./pre-inst-env guix build -e '(@@ (gnu packages commencement) mes-boot)' /gnu/store/dfwkand25k6nsmrk85p8hsa1yq74y314-mes-boot-0.22-305-g2ab4c5c67 and so on. In fact, each time you build or install a package using Guix, these (bootstrap) dependencies are resolved and -if necessary- all built automagically. The first working version of 'wip-full-source-bootstrap' triggered the 'live-bootstrap' effort: https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap aiming to script/redo (change, improve, ...) this bootstrap outside of/without Guix. Greetings, Janneke -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <jann...@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | AvatarĀ® http://AvatarAcademy.com