On 13/02/2018 21:53, Matt Graham wrote:
😊 I think I would love to sit down in a pub with the three of you (Wm, Adrien, 
and Mike). I think we could have such awesome semi-drunken discussions about 
the nature of life, the universe and everything!


I'm in London. Mike is in a Trump voting bit of Merka. Don't know where Adrien is and he shouldn't have to say.

Accounting is a way of measuring life. Happiness is harder to quantify. Life should be enjoyable and measuring money shouldn't occupy too much of our time.

Most crass philosophical sayings are also guaranteed to be crap.

I think you have basically answered my question, and I think we all basically 
agree on the rough direction things *should* go in (separate interacting 
packages).

I'm the person arguing for stuff to be taken *out* of the basic package so the important stuff can more easily be better interpreted or used, the important stuff being the data that each of us owns or has responsibility for.

Meanwhile, since I have a good understanding of accounting and databases and related stuff, I just do the bits I need that gnc doesn't cover using plain text accounting. My point in that regard being that almost all the *thought* problems have been solved in the plain text accounting universe and plain text accounting has also solved some problems you and I didn't even know existed and are way more esoteric than a budget being to your specific needs or a report being formatted one column to the left for the convenience of your tax accountant.

The problems have been solved, it is the presentation you are struggling with.

> I’m just not sure how to help make it happen (I’m an enthusiastic amateur when it comes to programming).

The gnc code is almost impenetrable in parts. I'm considerably above average when it comes to programmings skills but there are, when I drill down, bits that simply don't parse. I know exactly what the code is meant to be doing but someone has written it in such an obscure way I just give up and return to understanding the data.

It is *this* that the seniors are working on rather than adding a bell or a whistle.

If the code can't be brought into a form where more than a handful of people can understand it the project is going to die with the seniors as they naturally retire to caring more for their grandchildren than people on the internet thing that demand they do this or that.

You seem like one of the demanding people to me, Matt

I think I’ll start by updating the budget part of the tuts and concept guide 
like I have promised elsewhere, and then start looking into how the C++ modules 
have been structured (to see what connection will be possible within the 3.0 
releases).


Ufff, you are welcome to try to understand the budgets but you are warned, you aren't the first to think it makes sense to contribute there. You are also unlikely to succeed in explaining the way the existing budgets work to anyone's satisfaction, possibly even your own satisfaction. I am not joking, by the time you have figured out how the existing budgets work you will already be wondering why they were included at all which brings us neatly back to you, Matt, wondering what the scope is, remember ?

I don't think you should be defining the scope for other people any more than me ... my wishlist is simple and if I don't get what I want I'm not going to cry because I can do my accounting in more than one way.

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Wm

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