Well, I upgraded to "Rebuild of the GnuCash 3.5 Windows Bundle", but
GnuCash still gives me the strange error when I try to save to the usual
location where I've saved in the past successfully with 2.6.x.

Kind regards,

Greg Feneis




On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So far, nobody seems to be able to repeat this issue, so we haven't ruled
> out that it's a failure of my computer that's causing this.  So it's
> probably not worth adding to the bug tracker.
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:10 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> 2.6.21 and 3.x are supposed to be fully file-compatible. Earlier releases
>> in the 2.6 series may not be depending on what 3.x features you use.
>>
>> If you'd prefer to continue the troubleshooting in the bug tracker, file
>> a bug.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just a coupe of questions,
>> >
>> > 1.  Once the working file (xml) is saved by 3.5, does it remain
>> backward compatible with 2.6.21 in case I want to downgrade?
>> >
>> > 2.  Should I log this bug in bugzilla?
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Greg Feneis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> > Sorry I missed this yesterday.  The language is English (United
>> States), The Location is United States. The current language for
>> non-Unicode programs is English (United States)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Greg Feneis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 4:33 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> > Indeed. I just tried C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash. No problem.
>> >
>> > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set LANG and
>> LANGUAGES in C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\etc\gnucash\environment? Is
>> your userid an Administrator?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > I misread your instructions and only attempted to save outside of the
>> Dropbox folder, but not in my ...\Users\Greg\... folder, so I tried this
>> path and file name:
>> > > C:\Xobpord\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\Official
>> Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (117 chars, outside of
>> Dropbox, Failure!)
>> > > The error message reads:
>> > > "You attempted to save in
>> H[gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close).
>> > >
>> > > Then I read your email again before starting a reply and realized you
>> spec'd the home directory, so I tried the following path and file name:
>> > > C:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\Official Working File After Testing Path Lengh Issues.gnucash (128
>> chars, outside of Dropbox, inside user folder, success!)
>> > >
>> > > So, appears with 3.5 I can only have a generous path while saving
>> within the windows user folder?
>> > >
>> > > Things are getting curiouser
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,¯¯
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us> wrote:
>> > > Just to completely rule out Dropbox being somehow involved, could you
>> create the same hierarchy in your home directory, i.e.
>> c:\Users\Greg\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\Gnucash Files\
>> > >
>> > > I was able to successfully save
>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash
>> > > and its log file
>> > > C:\Users\John Ralls\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Docs\DeTradingWithExtraNoiseAdded.gnucash.20190407134124.log
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > John Ralls
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Some more testing on the issue where 3.5 seems to want a shorter
>> path than 2.6.x did:
>> > > >
>> > > > Just now, I exited Dropbox to see if that had something to do with
>> it, but pretty much the same error for all three path variations, what
>> worked historically with 2.6.x, no ampersand but some folder names used
>> spaces, and no ampersand + no spaces.  It seemed purely to do with length,
>> but it doesn't seem to be about total characters.
>> > > >
>> > > > With Dropbox back on, here are some more tests:
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Success!
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\GnuCashFiles\test.gnucash
>> (65 chars) Failure!
>> > > >
>> > > > So I shortened the name of the last folder from GnuCashFiles down
>> to G and still got the same problem
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\G\test.gnucash  (54 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > > >
>> > > > So I shortened the name of the previous folder from GnuCash down to
>> GnuCa, and it also failed even though it was 52 chars, the character count
>> that seemed to work previously.  Also the error message for this is
>> slightly different.
>> > > > "You attempted to save in
>> [gibberish]\Users\Greg\AppData\Roaming\GnuCash or a subdirectory thereof.
>> This is not allowed as GnuCash reserves that directory for internal
>> use....Please try again in a different directory. (close)."  See screen
>> shot here
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pa3gdy6c2w21x6u/2019-04-07_9-30-31.jpg?dl=0
>> > > > This was the actual attempted path:
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCa\G\test.gnucash   (52 chars)
>> Failure! although same char count
>> > > >
>> > > > More testing:
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\G\test.gnucash   (48 chars)
>> Failure!
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCand\G\G\test.gnucash (47 chars) Failure!
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCan\G\G\test.gnucash (46 chars) Success!
>> > > >
>> > > > If I reduce the number of folders in the path, does the max
>> character count go up?
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\G\test.gnucash   (46 chars) Success!
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\Gnu\test.gnucash (48 chars) Success!
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCash\test.gnucash (52 chars)
>> Success!  (confirming results from beginning of this email)
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (66 chars) Success!
>> > > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (83 chars) Success!
>> > > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandD\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (100 chars) Success!
>> > > >
>> C:\Dropbox\MyDocs\ThoroughCandDTestEvenLongerPathEvenLongerPathSuperLongPath\GnuCashTestLongerPathAndEvenLongerPathAndEvenLongerPath\test.gnucash
>> (145 chars) Success!
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm not going to test to failure on this folder count, but it sure
>> looks like something about GnuCash 3.5 limits the path based on folder
>> count and path character count.  If I use a 5 folder path, max path
>> character count is 46.  If I used a 4 folder path, I've tested up to 145
>> characters.
>> > > >
>> > > > Hope this helps.
>> > > >
>> > > > Kind regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:32 AM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > Hi John,
>> > > >
>> > > > The path length issue was with 3.5 on Win 7-64.  Previously used
>> 2.6.x to save to the same location without trouble.
>> > > >
>> > > > The path that 3.5 failed to write to is:
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\(VerboseFileNameProbably30chars.gnucash)
>> > > >
>> > > > The last successful saves to this directory was by GnuCash 2.6.21,
>> and was:
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash.20190401075914.log  (4/1/2019
>> 8:01AM)
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash
>> Files\AfterImporting2018ThroughQ4.gnucash (4/1/2019 7:59AM)
>> > > >
>> > > > Since I suspected it was a path length issue, I tried saving the
>> file name test.gnucash in the same location, but got the same error.  So I
>> went one folder back and tried to save again and it failed the same way.  I
>> kept shortening the path folder by folder like this until it did save,
>> which was as follows:
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\test.gnucash
>> > > >
>> > > > Next, I copied the original folders so I could make a test path
>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no ampersand, and I
>> still get the the same problem.
>> > > >
>> > > > C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C and D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>>  fails just like   C:\Dropbox\My Docs\Thorough C & D\GnuCash\GnuCash Files\
>> > > >
>> > > > A screen shot of the error
>> > > >
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd8rlgj1kvv0ysn/2019-04-05_18-37-52.png?dl=0
>> > > >
>> > > > Next, I copied the original folder so I could make a test path
>> exactly like the path that causes the error, but with no spaces in the
>> folder names and no ampersand, and I still get the same problem.  However,
>> this time, when gnucash tried to display the path in the error message, it
>> got some of it right.
>> > > >
>> > > > A screen shot of that is here:
>> > > >
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3p0agpdlkmzia4/2019-04-05_18-52-26.png?dl=0
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Kind regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:14 PM John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us>
>> wrote:
>> > > > That's interesting. What is the path that's causing trouble with
>> 3.5, and please remind me what OS you're using.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > John Ralls
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:04 PM, Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There's a problem with 3.5 where it won't save to the usual
>> location that I
>> > > > > have saved the file to when I was using 2.6.x  For some reason
>> 3.5 has a
>> > > > > problem with path length.  I never had a problem with 2.6.21, I
>> just
>> > > > > thought I should keep up to the latest in case I wanted to ask
>> for help
>> > > > > with it.  But since it's going to give me trouble, I'll just go
>> back to
>> > > > > 2.6.21, so long as it will work with the file that was previously
>> saved by
>> > > > > 3.5.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Greg Feneis <http://www.linkedin.com/in/electromechanical>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 7:09 PM Fross, Michael <mich...@fross.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> If you don't mind my asking, why are you downgrading?  What have
>> you found
>> > > > >> that you prefer in 2.6.21?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Michael
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 1:26 PM Greg Feneis <mfen...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Hi,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> I've done some work in 3.5 and I'm considering downgrading to
>> 2.6.21.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Can 2.6.21 work with the xml .gnucash file once it was changed
>> and saved
>> > > > >>> by
>> > > > >>> 3.5?
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Kind regards,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Greg
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