I followed up a little more on this, checking the references all the way
through, and downloading the same nightly to see it in action. My
observations follow.
The discussion that Sherlock references includes 3 messages, and the
discussion is very brief. The developer announced the implementation of
the feature, asking for beta testers. A second person expressed
potential concern/interest and asked about where this feature was
entered into Bugzilla, and the developer pointed to a secondary thread
in which the Autoclear feature was proposed and implemented for a very
specific use-case. That secondary reference is from 2010. This was the
extent of the discussion.
The 2010 implementation has resided happily under the Actions menu
presumably since 2010, where the intrepid user can activate it as
needed. I had never noticed it before in the 15 years since it was
added. I would be very interested to know whether anyone since the
original coder has made use of the tool.
It is unclear what triggered the new implementation of this feature, nor
why its functionality was changed to be part of the regular
reconciliation process. I am curious as to what perceived shortcoming
caused the developer to insert this into the process, given its previous
existence under the Actions tab.
In my opinion, this feature should remain _only_ under Actions, and not
be inserted into the normal reconciliation process. I could go into the
overall philosophy behind reconciliation (again), but I won't, except to
say that Autoclearing transactions that a user has (typically and
increasingly) downloaded from the bank renders the entire concept of
reconciliation even more absurd than it already is.
With regard to the feature itself, I remain steadfast that if it is
going to remain embedded in the reconciliation process(and that should
be a BIG if), it should be switchable by the user. Furthermore, it is
unclear why the dialog that is used here is as uninformative as it is.
There is literally no explanation about what this is intended to do or
what will happen with either choice. Given that the feature already
exists and has a clear explanation in *its* dialog (I attach,
hopefully), this omission is, frankly, concerning.
Finally, there is some logic hidden in the code, such that certain
invocations of reconciliation do not trigger the dialog. I am unclear
why this would be the case, but it is odd to me that the dialog would
show sometimes but not others.
David T.
On 12/12/2025 7:45 AM, sunfish62--- via gnucash-user wrote:
Well.
ISTM a change of this sort should be announced in the user list, and feedback
solicited here. *Before* rolling into a commit.
Personally, I don't think this is such a good idea, and I'd surely want the
ability to turn it off. But I'm an old fuddy-duddy.
I also hope that the implementer has updated the documentation to explain the
feature.
David T.
On Dec 12, 2025, 7:25 AM, at 7:25 AM, Sherlock <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Bruce,
This was discussed on the gnucash-devel mailing list last month:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2025-November/047164.html
Select Auto-clear if you want GnuCash to apply it's guess of which of
the remaining uncleared transactions need to be cleared to balance the
reconcile.
Select Cancel if you do not want GnuCash to apply it's guess of which
of
the remaining uncleared transactions need to be cleared to balance the
reconcile.
There is no preference setting.
Note: If GnuCash is not able to find remaining uncleared transactions
that need to be cleared to balance the reconcile, there shouldn't be a
pop-up window.
Regards,
Sherlock
On 12/11/25 4:12 PM, Bruce Olson via gnucash-user wrote:
I'm testing the following nightly build on Debian 13.
This is for the latest nightly build, stable-C5.13-112-g46fe45570f-
D5.13-1-g285f67b7.
I get a new pop-up window (attached) in reconcile right after I
accepted
the statement ending date and ending balance. I searched previous
emails and I couldn't find the bug this was created for. I also
searched
the open bug list.
I have a couple questions:
What are the consequences of selecting Auto-clear vs Cancel?
Can this pop-up be turned off in preferences?
Regards,
Bruce
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