Crossing fingers.

Do report back results if you are able to.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lee Phillips <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2026 5:17 PM
To: Tom Route36 <[email protected]>
Cc: Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>; [email protected]; David T. 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...

Thanks, all! Will tackle this over the weekend, once my "plumbing crises"
are resolved!

Steve


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On Thu, Oct 1, 2026 at 4:11 PM Tom Route36 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kalpesh,
>
> This is a great way to get around dealing with Quicken's subscription 
> requirement; and I think your way is definitely less hassle for Steve.
> It's also possibly a good way of trying to clean up any issues with 
> the Quicken data itself.  I do have one suggestion though that might 
> make the data cleanup process better -- or at least more likely to be 
> successful.
>
> You suggest exporting the .qfx file from Quicken Mac 2007; and 
> importing the .qfx file to Quicken Windows 2013.  That would probably 
> work.  But in regard to trying to safely clean up the Quicken data, my 
> suggestion would be slightly different.  I'd take the exported .qfx 
> file from Quicken Mac
> 2007 and import it into Quicken Windows *2007* first.  That way you're 
> moving the data between Mac and PC on the same year of Quicken 
> software (2007), which I think might be safer.
>
> Then once the data has been moved into Quicken Windows 2007, you 
> upgrade the software on the PC to Quicken Windows 2013.  That might be 
> a safer way to clean up the Quicken data.  It's still kinda iffy; and 
> doing multiple Validate and Repair operations to check for data issues 
> on both year versions (2007 and 2013) would be highly recommended.
>
> Anyway, that would be my one tweak to your advice for Steve.
> Tom
>
>
> On 10/01/2026 04:02 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> These steps can be reduced where their cloud version is **not** needed 
> at all.
>
>
>
> Reading 
> https://www.quicken.com/support/converting-your-data-quicken-mac-0
> steps to do Mac upgrade but probably isn’t necessary. Since Mac 
> version doesn’t provide QIF export, The cleanest route (outside of 
> cleaning up the
> data) is to export out data into QFX format from the existing Mac 
> version and then install Windows version of Quicken 2013 (might not 
> need Virtual Box). There is a link at the bottom of 
> https://www.quicken.com/support/how-and-when-use-intermediate-version-
> convert-older-versions-quicken/?srsltid=AU7gw4UlwroMzIM8S5PREhIkCezAcT
> 3BYQrpq0Ev9KerNVR0jIMjetyY for Quicken 2013 Deluxe download for free 
> which is stated to be able to import QFX format and export away 
> directly from there into QIF. This kind of implies that changes to 
> their internal database was last done during version 2013, which make 
> sense as I recall something to that effect.
>
>
>
> Before exporting the data, I suggest that in Quicken use Validate and 
> Repair from File Operations and then from File Operation perform Copy. 
> Do this about three times to try to rinse out bad records in Quickens 
> internal database (not guaranteed). Then export to QFX, Import into 
> Quicken 2013 on Windows. Run this rinse operation three times there as 
> well before exporting to QIF format.
>
>
>
> This is likely to be the least resistant way of getting to GNC from 
> that old data.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Route36 <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2026 2:35 AM
> *To:* David T. <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>; 'Stephen Lee Phillips' <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> David,
>
> The reason for having to go thru this rather long complicated process 
> is because Quicken desktop software on the Mac -- all versions, from 
> the oldest to the current subscription version -- fails to include any 
> option to export a .qif file.  I don't have a Mac system myself where 
> I could check that; but all the user forums and AI info that I looked 
> at seem to confirm that.  You have to do the .qif export with Quicken 
> Windows software.  Ugly, but that's Quicken.
>
> As far as troubles with opening an ancient Quicken 2007 .qdfm file, 
> you're absolutely correct.  Quite a few users have reported issues 
> trying to do that.  Unfortunately, if there is a problem opening the 
> file with the latest Quicken Classic desktop software, the database 
> itself may have issues inherent in the data structures.  And even if 
> you can successfully open the .qdfm file with the original Quicken 
> 2007 software, it's quite likely that exporting it to a .qxf file, and 
> then attempting to open it with Quicken Windows (any version) is likely to 
> have problems as well.
> There's no real good way of getting around that.  If it's any 
> consolation, the encouraging bright spot is that the export of the 
> data is likely to export basic checking, savings, and credit card 
> accounts and categories in those accounts intact and correct (at least 
> based on the reports that I've seen).  Where problems are more likely 
> are with stock and mutual fund type accounts, especially when they 
> involve tracking stock splits and capital gains.  I suspect that no 
> matter how the conversion goes for Steve there's going to be a lot of 
> manual tweaking involved in Gnucash.  It's the reality of dealing with nearly 
> 20 year-old software.
>
> Tom
>
> On 09/30/2026 11:54 PM, David T. wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I hope you're right, but I'll note that I've seen some troubling pages 
> from the Quicken websites that suggest that the current versions of 
> Quicken won't directly open a Quicken file from 2007. That would 
> complicate things drastically.
>
> Also, I'm not certain, but wouldn't Quicken for the Mac also have a 
> QIF export?
>
> David T.
>
>
>
> On October 1, 2026 7:54:44 AM GMT+05:30, Tom Route36 
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I think Kalpesh's advice is on the right track here.  But I think 
> there's a simpler way of getting to where you want to go.  (Well, 
> maybe not simpler. There's a bunch of steps involved.)  My suggestion 
> would be to let Quicken provide you with the means of converting that 
> data.  First (and don't get scared off just yet) it *will* involve you 
> purchasing a Quicken subscription.  *But* you should be able to 
> ultimately accomplish all this on the cheap -- i.e., for FREE!  Bear with me 
> here while I explain.
>
> If you go to the Quicken website (not a third-party, that's important) 
> and purchase a subscription from Quicken for "Quicken Classic (Windows 
> and Mac)" (that specific product name is also important), you'll get 
> the current Quicken desktop software.  Once you get that program 
> loaded on your Mac computer, as soon as you go to start it for the 
> first time (after logging in with your new Quicken ID), the program 
> should ask if you have an existing file you want to open.  That's 
> where you specify your Quicken 2007 .qdfm file.  I would avoid any requests 
> or options to cloud sync your data.
>
> Once you've opened the .qdfm file on your Mac computer with the latest 
> Quicken Classic desktop software, don't try to change anything.  Just 
> immediately go and export the data (all accounts and categories) to a 
> .qxf file.  Be sure to save that .qxf file somewhere where you can 
> access it from a Windows PC.
>
> Next, go to your Windows PC (or borrow one if needed), and go back 
> again to the Quicken website, this time on the Windows PC.  Login to 
> your Quicken account (using the same Quicken ID you just created earlier on 
> the Mac).
> And download and install the same Quicken Classic software that you 
> previously installed on the Mac.  Your subscription should allow 
> multiple installations of the software.  Once the Quicken software is 
> installed on the Windows PC, select the option to create a new empty 
> Quicken file.  Once you've got the new empty Quicken file open, then 
> go and import the .qxf file that you previously created on the Mac.
>
> Now that you've imported the .qxf file to create a Quicken database on 
> the Windows PC, you can finally export the data from there (on the 
> Windows PC) into a .qif file.  And be sure to save it someplace safe.  
> That's the file that you need to get the data into Gnucash.
>
> So you're finally done.  Uh, not quite.  Remember what I said about 
> doing this for free.  Well, this is where you go back and contact 
> Quicken customer support.  You tell them you tried their software and 
> didn't like it.  And so, you'd like to take advantage of their "30-day 
> Money Back Satisfaction Guarantee".  You should be able to get a full 
> refund of all your money.
>
> Anyway, I think this is probably the most straightforward way of 
> getting the .qdfm file converted for Gnucash.
> Hope this helps,
> Tom
>
>
> On 09/30/2026 04:04 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> In that case MacOS is the only way in Virtual Box instead of Windows 
> OS it sounds like. Two possible routes instead of one – 1) Older MacOS 
> running an older Quicken version in Virtual Box and then export it out 
> as QIF, or 2) let newer version of Quicken on MacOS upgrade that 
> version into modern format, and then either export to QIF directly 
> from there or bring it over to Windows and export. Note that Windows 
> has been using QDF proprietary format to store Quicken data.
>
>
>
> I found number of Vagrant boxes for older MacOS that can run in 
> Virtual Box at 
> https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover?query=macos.
>
>
>
> In either case, though, you will end up with export-import cycle which 
> is the best route.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Route36 <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2026 12:08 AM
> *To:* 'Stephen Lee Phillips' <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>; 'David T.' <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> After I saw Kalpesh's advice, it got me curious about those old 
> versions of Quicken, and I decided to run a few tests.  If you did get 
> a Windows instance up and running, you wouldn't need to worry about 
> which version of Windows it was.  For my testing here on a current 
> Windows 11 system, I was able to successfully install and run both Quicken 
> 2014 and Quicken 2007.
>
> The bad news though is Quicken Windows can't open a Quicken Mac 
> (.qdfm) file.  So I don't think doing that will help in your case.  As 
> David mentioned already, you need Quicken (specifically a Mac version 
> of it) to open that .qdfm file so that you can export it in one of 
> those generic formats.
>
> A piece of good news for you though is that newer versions of Quicken
> (post-2007) can most likely open your .qdfm file.  I tested and 
> confirmed that Quicken 2014 can open a Quicken 2007 file.  At least it 
> worked for me on Windows.  So even if you don't have a Mac system with 
> Quicken 2007 anymore, I think if you can find someone with a Mac 
> system that has *any* version of Quicken, there's a good chance it 
> will be able to read your old .qdfm file -- which would then allow you to 
> export it as a .QIF file.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Tom
>
>
> On 09/29/2026 07:25 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
>
> Your only and, one and only one real option is run a Windows instance in a 
> VirtualBox (Vagarant can provide a lot of plumbing if you know how) where you 
> can install Quicken 2006 and export it out as a QIF  format (OFX and CSV 
> formats for export are not available in Quicken) to import into GNC. Even 
> that is not strait forward as semantics of two system differ in many ways. I 
> would venture to think that you would probably need either Windows XP or 
> Windows 7 as a compatible OS to possibly run that old of a Quicken version. 
> You should be able to get a copy of it from the archive machine 
> (https://archive.org/search?query=quicken&tab=all).
>
>
>
> I remember writing up good hints to minimize pain to this group many years 
> ago from my experience of migrating over two decades of data from Quicken 
> 2017 into GNC inn 2020 (and I am still fixing up some of that data).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: David T. <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2026 2:32 AM
>
> To: [email protected]; Stephen Lee Phillips 
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Download assistance sought...
>
>
>
> I'm pretty sure you won't find any success getting at that data from outside 
> the Quicken universe. Your only option, I believe, is to open the data file 
> in Quicken and export your data in a generic format like OFX, QIF, or csv and 
> then importing that into another accounting program.
>
>
>
> David T.
>
>
>
> On September 29, 2026 7:16:35 AM GMT+05:30, Stephen Lee Phillips 
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Trying to find conversion for .qdfm (Quicken Data for Mac) file from
>
> 2007 and was directed to GnuCash, however I've been unsuccessful in
>
> finding, downloading, and extracting/opening the correct iteration to
>
> run on Intel Mac OS Sonoma 14.8.9: Any suggestions would be most
>
> gratefully appreciated...
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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