Worth keeping in mind: blockchain does not necessarily mean energy-intense,
there are many blockchains that work based on history. They use
proof-of-stake instead of proof-of-work. They are not without problems and
there are a lot of proof-of-stake-SomehingElse to address those, but it is
possible to make it work.

Bart Polot

On 30 May 2015 at 11:56, Christian Grothoff <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> First of all, I think having a blockchain in GNUnet is technically
> possible. But the question is for what.  For a payment system, we're
> working on GNU Taler (taler.net), which has a more strong ethical
> foundation and should be less expensive to operate.  Blockchains also
> generally worry me because of the inherent high demand for energy.
>
> I do see some potential use for a blockchain in GNUnet to facilitate
> computations or timestamping services a la Ethereum, but even there I'll
> need some more convincing data before I believe it's viable (but
> Ethereum is certainly a worthwhile experiment / research direction).
> Still, for now, I plan to focus my efforts in other areas (GNS, ATS,
> Conversation, PSYC, multicast, etc etc.).
>
> If you want to see blockchain-based applications, I'd suggest you work
> with the Ethereum folks for now, they seem to be the best team for that
> today. And if those really take off, I'm sure we can find a way to
> integrate Ethereum with GNUnet (AFAIK, some of their devs are already
> thinking about that.)
>
> Happy hacking!
>
> Christian
>
> On 05/30/2015 09:11 AM, jan marco alkema wrote:
> > Hello Christian,
> >
> > I am look to blockchain concept (of Bitcoin).
> >
> > Source:
> >
> http://www.wired.com/2014/03/decentralized-applications-built-bitcoin-great-except-whos-responsible-outcomes/
> >
> >
> > "Thus, while they enable a whole new set of possibilities,
> > blockchain-based applications also present legal
> > <
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2014/03/safe-harbor-for-finance-startups-regulation/
> >,
> > technical, and social challenges similar to those raised by other P2P
> > applications that came before them, such as BitTorrent, Tor, or Freenet.
> > But some of these challenges haven't been seen before in the context of
> > traditional P2P networks."
> >
> > .
> > .
> >
> > "As such, the bitcoin platform (or blockchain) allows for the deployment
> > of decentralized applications that combine the benefits of cloud
> > computing -- in terms of ubiquity and elasticity -- with the benefits of
> > P2P technologies in terms of privacy and anonymity. Even though the
> > blockchain is inherently transparent (as every transaction is recorded
> > on a public ledger), users can have multiple identities that don't
> > necessarily relate to their real persona."
> >
> > Blockchain-based applications can therefore address user's privacy
> > through anonymity.
> >
> > Is there integration of blockchain (concept) and gnunet possible/useful?
> >
> > Greetings Jan Marco
> >
> >
> >
> >
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