This time there aren't dozens of things keeping me from answering in due time! :) Sorry for the delay regarding pubsub.
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 01:07:08AM +0100, amirouche wrote: > I got into creating a new logo for gnunet > logos and mockup at https://imgur.com/a/ZOjNU Fabulous. I didn't dare to drop the gnu on the web which made all my attempts look little better than the original, but doing a network of cuddly bubbly nodes is a new way to look at it. Great. Depending on the priorities, we may want to use different lettering: - thin lowercase lettering is very artistic but requires us to use the logo without letters whenever it is a bit small, it's not ideal for printing, either. It might even be too thin for standard small pin buttons. but we may want to choose this for artistic reasons, anyhow. - boldface uppercase lettering probably increases readability also at smaller scale. could you try that out so we can compare? ng0, mixed case 'GNUnet' makes sense to "brand" the word in the middle of written text, or if the text isn't embedded into the logo. I once did it that way, as you can see in the 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTystTvYBQw' video, but it only made sense because I left 'GNUnet' as is. For this bubbly version, my partner obviously liked the pink one best.. and she said we can reduce the number of letters in bubbles by using the 'N' twice as in: GNU* *E** *T** **** ... I don't disagree but I also see artistic value in just that enclosing style that you chose: GNU* ***N ***E ***T And I presume you thought about it already yourself.. ;) > Starting up with the Internet is broken is > not very positive and most likely people > coming to the website already know that. I heard somebody making the same observation. > I think about: ethical, energy efficient, secure > and anonymous. Ethical isn't always a cool word, but that's what it boils down to, and in the desperate situation of the current Internet, it's what is needed the most. Energy-efficient compared to blockchain (not only the PoW, also the consensus always being network-wide) but not necessarily when compared with network stacks that do not fulfil the aims. To me those insufficient stacks (be it TCP/IP, cjdns or Netsukuku etc) just aren't good enough to "unbreak" technology and make it safe for humankind, so those aren't optimizations that we can societally afford. The word "secure" is terribly abused. I wished we had expected that when we chose it for "secushare". We could go for the more clumsy "end-to-end encrypted", but then we are not pointing out the science that went into the design of sybil-attack-resistant routing etc. In regards to 'anonymous', not only is it too early to make that claim, it is also a word with too many meanings that could one day become detrimental. Maybe we could focus on 'metadata protection', while pointing out that the interactions themselves are actually end-to-end authenticated, not anonymous. But, truth is, we don't know how well gnunet protects metadata if CADET isn't actively routing in non-deter- mistic ways, yet. Once we have onion routing and mixnets it's a different story. > Distributed Application Framework A network stack is always about applications you do on top. The fact that it brings 'distributed networ- king' into the generic domain of application design is the novelty. With bogus javascript libraries calling themselves 'framework' I would avoid such a reductive term. We are replacing TCP/IP with a stack that is by far more advanced and complex. We should actually find words that make it clear that we are doing something bigger than the current Internet. Calling it a "distributed networking stack" is the least we can do IMHO. In ancient Roman terms I would say we are upgrading from the latrines to the Coliseum. > IPFS is the distributed web. > > That is a bit strong and surf on the _web_ frenzy. > Serving static files over the network is an old trick. It's the best they can do with a distributed file system, sell it as an alternative for serving up static content. Still people have little awareness that IPFS is a humble subset of what GNUnet offers. > Explain in layman terms that most the regular network stack is > replaced > by a secure version. Explai from top to bottom (I think it's easier > to understand but I am just a webdev) what are the different services. Maybe the approach we took in http://secushare.cheettyiapsyciew.onion/broken-internet aka http://secushare.org/broken-internet can be useful? -- E-mail is public! Talk to me in private using encryption: http://loupsycedyglgamf.onion/LynX/ irc://loupsycedyglgamf.onion:67/lynX https://psyced.org:34443/LynX/ _______________________________________________ GNUnet-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnunet-developers
