Hi all,

BVK wrote:
> Also,
> 
> Is there any pressure from SUN to shutdown this project? (I wish the
> answer to be NO.) With  SUN's pushing/planing of Indiana as
> the-OpenSolaris-distribution and mother-of-all-derivatives ideas, i am
> little bit skeptical.

no pressure I'm aware of, and I work for Sun and I'm core contributor of 
Nexenta, we are just small community (nexenta) to produce progress every 
day, the current task list that has to be fulfilled is tracked as 
blueprints at

http://launchpad.net/nexenta

feel free to join, offer help, talk, etc... once we have nexenta.org 
machine up and running with wiki more content will become available.

We all know how painful it is for the users to feel that we don't 
communicate with them more often, but please bear with us, we really 
needed to do some infrastructure changes and they are still not done...

> There seems to be no plans to open up Sun Studio compilers anytime
> soon, so i would like to ask, are there any plans to make Nexenta a
> standalone product? when can i compile open-solaris bits on nexenta
> and update it on my own?

this is nr. 2 ticket on my personal TODO list, I got quite far 
recompiling ONNV on Nexenta using a bit tweaked system but haven't done 
it 100% yet, once you go to the details of ONNV you realize that one big 
monolotic wad of stuff as the ONNV is is really hard to recompile, 
because it relies on many dependencies/prerequisities. It simply is not 
that compatibile with the Debian build-depends: componentized type of build.

> Any documentation on how you people update the nexenta bits from
> opensolaris source will be very helpful to get our hands dirty. I
> didn't find any such information till now.

will hopefully be available soon, it's on Erast's TODO list nr. 2 :-)

> Also, is it possible to build working set of opensolaris bits using
> gcc alone, without using Sun compilers at all?

no, there is a shadow build happening using gcc if you recompile ONNV 
but AFAIU it is impossible to compile entire archive using just gcc, for 
example GRUB fails to compile using SunStudio and needs GCC, other parts 
need java as a build-depends, other parts need sun linker, so the ONNV 
build is quite a nasty thing, yes I say this and I'm fully prepared to 
start filling bug reports again ONNV once I know the concrete bugs...

> Dont take my questions too serious, im beginning to be little doubtful
> about SUN's open(2)-ness.

as far as I might comment this, the opensolaris community is rather 
young (2 years) and still learns how to work openly in the wild, 
remember that it grew completely differently from for example projects 
like Debian, just watch Ian Murdock fighting with/for Indiana...

>> o Still no updates for A7

said many times, a7 will not be updated, the direction to 1.0 is nexenta 
core platform, currently at beta1 test3

>> o Forums are dead

what do you mean by that? mailing lists are quite working, aren't they?

>> --Where's the PROGRESS???

on the harddrives of the individuals :-))

HTH,
Martin
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