Although I fully agree with that these two conditions today, I am afraid, from personal experience as somebody born in Angola to Goan parents, who grew up in both Angola and Portugal and then became an adult in Goa, ancestry did matter for a large population in Portugal, specially from the backward and poor areas like Alentejo, Minho and other remote places. There was a lot of prejudice in Lisbon too during the 1970's and 1980's mainly due to sheer ignorance and malice, blaming incomers for taking up their jobs - but things have changed a lot today. Ancestry was the reason many local Portuguese did not climb up the echelons of administration and power in all territories during the colonial times, possibly with the exception of Goa, as many Goan shone mainly due to education and were recognized for their brilliance. Interesting enough, all types of ancestries used to mingle together in harmony and with no issues at work and social events at the ex-colonies. Education is always key to help change medieval mindsets of those who think they are 'higher' and help those who are 'lower' to challenge the system. Glad these former people's kids have a modern take to life and are more tolerant to various ancestries today. Interestingly enough, my Portuguese friends tell me I am Portuguese, my Angolan friends tell me I am Angolan, my Goan friends tell me I am Goan and my local friends here in the UK call me British, ancestry being secondary in three cases... except in Goa where ancestry apparently matters! 🙂 It feels weird, but great to be able to speak and feel all these identities. Joao Paulo Cota
________________________________ From: 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> Sent: 13 November 2023 12:33 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GRN] Re: Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES Whether consciously or unconsciously, the vast majority of Portuguese people feel that to be Portuguese only two conditions must be satisfied: 1. Wishing to be Portuguese 2. Being able to speak Portuguese Ancestry is of no concern... Nuno Cardoso da Silva Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 12:52 PM From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" <[email protected]> To: "Goa-Research-Net" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GRN] Re: Fw: A INVASÃO DOS GOESES If it was posted earlier, it was later changed with the phrase «Invasão dos goeses »Invasion by the Goans, with deep political significance, and circled after the fall of the Costa. On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 09:11:47 AM GMT, fredericknoronha <[email protected]> wrote: As a matter of detail, I don't think this has come up after the fall of Costa. It was posted on the Goychem Daiz-2 (Goan Heritage) group by Amalia Nazareth on Oct 28, 2023, and then too, after it was posted "many times" as WhatsApp puts it. See the attachment. FN On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 11:31:14 UTC+5:30 Pedro Mascarenhas wrote: After the fall of Costa, the prime minister, backlash now follows against the most famous Goans and descendants in Portugal, as can be seen in this image published on Facebook, etc.( attached.) [X]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Sem vírus.www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> -- Pedro Mascarenhas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/d9f9942f-55fd-43e2-90c8-d753dd2d6829n%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/d9f9942f-55fd-43e2-90c8-d753dd2d6829n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/788669601.1870277.1699707135231%40mail.yahoo.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/788669601.1870277.1699707135231%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-61a47d50-60b5-42b8-9555-f615f6019f4e-1699878782313%403c-app-mailcom-bs11<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-61a47d50-60b5-42b8-9555-f615f6019f4e-1699878782313%403c-app-mailcom-bs11?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/GV2P195MB2161B04E63387645214E9CA482B2A%40GV2P195MB2161.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
